37' Pace Arrow... Input Needed

[ChrisMessier]

I`ve booked a full detail of a 37` Fleetwood Pace Arrow motorhome for Wednesday (11/27/13). It has some oxidation, and although not planning to use clay, I`ll use a Dewalt Rotary to apply #105, followed up with Collinite 845.


So, my questions for your contemplation:


A) Should I also use #205, or can I jump straight to LSP without losing gloss?


How much time do you figure this will take? My guess is three hours to wash and dry thoroughly, and six to clean and protect the paint.


C) What are some things you experienced RV guys have picked up over time? I`ve done countless cars, yet my RV experience is limited to one every two years..


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Thanks in advance, I really appreciate any help you can provide.


Christopher Messier


www.TophersDetailing.com

[David Fermani]

If you`re going with M105 with a rotary, you`re going to need to follow up with a finishing polish(M205). Not just to improve gloss, but to also remove the halograms you`re going to get with M105. You can also try just M205 and see where that gets you?`


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Regardless, I`d plan on spending atleast 1 full day doing 1 polishing step. Will you be doing it in the sun or shade? You should also look into using a low water wash to save you a bunch of time.`

[bunkeroo26]

Rv owners are programmed to ask for buffing.

I have found that they love a simple ONR with wax.

Granted, you said oxidation and this won`t remove that.


With rv work, we are talking about back and arm breaking polishing.

I do a test Spot for them with just my Rinse - less wash and

they choose that 90 percent of the time.


Do you want to buff? That is where the money is no doubt.

I would rather just buff cars.


But hey, there is some big up sides to budding and giving a high

quality product. If they live in an do park, that is instant advertising.

These people are very social (compared to regular car drivers), so a

good job at a good price gets talked about. There is a reason that

seniors love good deals, they understand hardship. Their parents were

depression parents. With this mindset, they understand that vendors

rake then over the coals for Rv work.


It just depends on where you want to fit in the spectrum.

I have decided on the quicker washes in order to gain word

of mouth advertising. Heck, I will be doing polishing but I realize

that the amount of work will be intense.



On a side note. Why would you not clay?

I definitely wouldn`t do this step. Contaminants can cause holograns

to form. If doing a quality job, I wouldn`t skip this step. This gives you

a chance to educate the customer. Look, if you want buffing to

remove the oxidatio, then I need to do X and Y and it might take Z hours.

But this will be done correctly. If I stop steps, I can damage your Rv.


Another thing to think about is how many polishing pads you will need.

This will take many pads, or take alot of time cleaning pads. Either way, budget

for this your time and money.


Would I like to make 20 an hour washing or 25 to 30 buffing?

My choice is to focus on washing, as my profits are larger on cars.


If you are going to buff, efficiency is imperative. The more that you move,

the more time is wasted. Sure, on Hourly this just inflates profits.

If using a rinseless wash, you can wash, Clay then buff all

in one little area, then move to next area.


If heavy oxidation, check out the thread from Barry about

Abrasive Isolation. Moving slower actually can increase efficiency.


The last Rv that I buffed, I used GPS from Optimum on it, and it

came out phenomenal. I really like this as it glazes, polishes and

seals in a one step product. You`re 205 and 245 combo should work,

I was just suggesting that you might only want to apply to the entire

Rv once. Going over the entire thing twice is going to take massive time.


What works good for me is to do a test panel on the side first to see if they

like method 1 enough. Then one they give okay, or we determine that they want

the more thorough method 2, then move directly to the roof. Huge time

waste if you wait on the roof.


Good Luck, Steady Hands and Strong Profits.

May your hard work bless your future with success.


Did I just create an Autopian prayer? Lol