Griot`s DA and 6" MF pads??

**rsunnafrank** · 03-20-2002, 07:25 PM

Thought I`d try out some Souveran on the TVR...

Did a complete Dawn, Clay (Zaino), HD-Cleanse and then Souveran app.. and the results...? Stunning!!

I have got some pics I have taken, but the lighting is poor. You can still see the reflections off the paint well though. I`ll post them now if anyone`s interested, otherwise i`ll get some pics in the daylight tomorrow...

-andy-

**rsunnafrank** · 03-20-2002, 11:03 PM

Thought I`d post these pics anyway - but I will get some better ones in daylight. Still think these look pretty good... :)

Sorry they are a bit dark though :(

-andy-

**rsunnafrank** · 03-20-2002, 11:04 PM

**rsunnafrank** · 03-20-2002, 11:05 PM

**69-912** · 03-21-2002, 09:34 AM

Pics are not working

I want to see this awesome car!

**ZL1Mark** · 05-17-2011, 11:38 AM

Considering Griot`s DA is one of the more powerful DA`s on the market, do you think it has enough power to spin 6" MF pads and still get effective defect removal in the same amount of time as a 5.5" MF pad?

**mikenap** · 05-17-2011, 11:55 AM

I guess it depends on how you look at it. I`d think the GG DA with 6.5" pads would be at least as effective as a PCXP with 5.5" pads. But the same GG with 5.5" pads will still be a bit more effective.

**ZL1Mark** · 05-17-2011, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by mikenap

But the same GG with 5.5" pads will still be a bit more effective.

Good point. I guess I`m just wondering if 6" MF pads would *still* be effective...

**bmw5541** · 05-17-2011, 01:14 PM

I would always use a 5.5" pad. However, I have read many a thread here, written by top detailers that if you are using Surbufs, the 6.5" seem to be more effective. I know that you are talking about the MF disks, but they are sort of similar.

**mikenap** · 05-17-2011, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by bmw5541

I would always use a 5.5" pad. However, I have read many a thread here, written by top detailers that if you are using Surbufs, the 6.5" seem to be more effective. I know that you are talking about the MF disks, but they are sort of similar.

Similar, yes. But the MF pads require a decent amount of pressure, about on par as foam pads, so the bigger sizes will still bog the machines faster. With Surbufs, you don`t need nearly the same pressure so you can get away with bigger pads and still be effective. I recall Bryan B stating that he would sometime use 7" Surbufs with a DA machine.

**imported_User Name** · 05-17-2011, 06:31 PM

Is it more powerful than the others???

I remember reading Kevin Brown`s articles about RPM`s and OPM`s and it made my head spin. I can`t remember but for some reason didn`t he say it wasn`t???

I don`t know, I`m dizzy just thinking about it!!! LOL

**imported_TLMitchell** · 05-17-2011, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by 07 z-oh-6

Considering Griot`s DA is one of the more powerful DA`s on the market, do you think it has enough power to spin 6" MF pads and still get effective defect removal in the same amount of time as a 5.5" MF pad?

If you were only looking to get effective defect removal in the same amount of time what would even be the motivation of larger pads? After using the 5.5" MFs and comparing 5.5" foam to the 6.5s I had been using I dumped all my larger pads. The little bit of time I may save covering a slightly larger area is offset by more effective correction in less time with the smaller pads.

That said, especially in light of the MFs working most effectively at slower speeds and the superb lubricity of D300, I`m sure the larger MFs would work fine on a GG DA. Write up a review after you give it a whirl. :w00t:

TL

**SoonerFan** · 05-18-2011, 07:45 AM

My GG is about two years old and has a fixed backing plate. I ordered the 6" Mf disks which should work well given its power over the porter cable DA. I did not feel like ordering another GG DA.

**Michael Stoops** · 06-01-2011, 04:21 PM

While you certainly can use the 6" microfiber discs on the Griot`s or any other DA, keep in mind that the system is overall optimized for use at 4800 opm on a DA with the 5" discs. Regardless of how much more power the Griot`s tool may have over the Porter Cable 7424, you still want to dial in that 4800 opm setting for max results. If more cut is needed, then you should apply more pressure and/or slow down your arm speed, NOT increase the tool`s speed setting. Now, in that regard, the Griot`s 6" and Meguiar`s G110v2 will both keep pad rotation under more pressure than the 7424 will (or the 7424XP for that matter).

The 6" discs were developed so that those who are tied to either the Flex 3401 or one of the other fixed backing plate 6" tools (Festool, etc) can still make use of this system. The forced rotation movement of the Flex tends to create more haze than a traditional DA does, however.

Where the 6" discs can come in handy on a DA is if you`re dealing with delicate paint that is very prone to hazing. You can minimize the haze with the larger discs, especially during the application of D301 in the cases of those super sensitive paints. In fact, in worst case scenarios you can dramatically reduce haze by hand applying D301 on a 6" disc mounted to Meguiar`s S6HP Hand Pad.

For routine correction the vast majority of the time, however, your best bet is the 5" disc on a DA at 4800 opm.

**imported_Bunky** · 06-01-2011, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Michael Stoops

Now, in that regard, the Griot`s 6" and Meguiar`s G110v2 will both keep pad rotation under more pressure than the 7424 will (or the 7424XP for that matter)..

I had never heard that the G110v2 was better than the XP.