What am I doing wrong?

[Accumulator]

phatrs- Hey, I`m really glad I didn`t come across (too) badly and give offense, I can understand how my post might`ve sounded

Yeah...upon reflection, most people *would* benefit from the (better) `Tubes, I just go extreme about how *I* learn stuff best.

Priming can be a surprisingly complicated subject! Different products can call for completely different priming techniques.

Heh heh, noting your profession, I bet you`ll get square-away in no time. (FWIW, I taught Programming at the local U.) Post back with more Qs! Those doors might take a while...you stripping them Chemically or sanding them (hmm...most RO polishers were originally co-opted from intended applications as sanders..)?

[phatrs]

phatrs- Hey, I`m really glad I didn`t come across (too) badly and give offense, I can understand how my post might`ve sounded

Yeah...upon reflection, most people *would* benefit from the (better) `Tubes, I just go extreme about how *I* learn stuff best.

Priming can be a surprisingly complicated subject! Different products can call for completely different priming techniques.

Heh heh, noting your profession, I bet you`ll get square-away in no time. (FWIW, I taught Programming at the local U.) Post back with more Qs! Those doors might take a while...you stripping them Chemically or sanding them (hmm...most RO polishers were originally co-opted from intended applications as sanders..)?

No offence taken.

The weather has done most of the work for me in the exposed areas. Need to watch a few more videos on that topic to make sure I take the right approach. LOL. I have a nice little palm random orbital that may get a workout if I don’t go down the stripping route.


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[wristymanchego]

Product is aplenty in Australia, mate, just not retail.

Here’s a few to get you going...

Waxit
* Carpro
* Rupes
* Flex
* Shinemate
* Concours
* Scholl

Zas
* Optimum
* Tacsystems

Carcareproducts
* Autoglym
* Gyeon

Valetpro
* Tacsystem

Refractccp
* Shine Mate
* SCCB

Detailcentral
* Nanoskin
* Angelwax
* Kamikaze
* Flex
* Solution finish

Detailingshed
* Optimum
* Carpro
* Kranzle
* P&S
* The Rag Company
* Concours
* Shinemate

Prodetailstore
* Meguiars
* Kranzle
* Rupes

Autobuff
* Meguiars
* Sonax
* Stoner

Primefinish
* Microfiber madness
* Carpro
* Kranzle
* Concours

Allcarevws
* The Rag Company
* P&S

Ultrafinecarcare
* ValetPRO
* The Rag Company
* GTechniq
* P&S

Dailydetailer
* P&S
* Carpro
* Concours
* Shine Mate
* Scholl
* The Rag Company
* Microfiber Madness

Apexcustoms
* carpro
* Scholl
* Menzerna

Makeitshiny
* Shine mate
* Flex
* Rupes
* Zentool

jaylenosgarage
* Shine mate
* Buff n shine

dailydetailer
* Carpro
* Concours
* Microfiber Madness
* The Rag Company
* P&S
* Shine Mate
* Scholl

automotivesuperstore
* Meguiars Professional

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Product is aplenty in Australia, mate, just not retail.

Here’s a few to get you going...

Waxit
* Carpro
* Rupes
* Flex
* Shinemate
* Concours
* Scholl

Zas
* Optimum
* Tacsystems

Carcareproducts
* Autoglym
* Gyeon

Valetpro
* Tacsystem

Refractccp
* Shine Mate
* SCCB

Detailcentral
* Nanoskin
* Angelwax
* Kamikaze
* Flex
* Solution finish

Detailingshed
* Optimum
* Carpro
* Kranzle
* P&S
* The Rag Company
* Concours
* Shinemate

Prodetailstore
* Meguiars
* Kranzle
* Rupes

Autobuff
* Meguiars
* Sonax
* Stoner

Primefinish
* Microfiber madness
* Carpro
* Kranzle
* Concours

Allcarevws
* The Rag Company
* P&S

Ultrafinecarcare
* ValetPRO
* The Rag Company
* GTechniq
* P&S

Dailydetailer
* P&S
* Carpro
* Concours
* Shine Mate
* Scholl
* The Rag Company
* Microfiber Madness

Apexcustoms
* carpro
* Scholl
* Menzerna

Makeitshiny
* Shine mate
* Flex
* Rupes
* Zentool

jaylenosgarage
* Shine mate
* Buff n shine

dailydetailer
* Carpro
* Concours
* Microfiber Madness
* The Rag Company
* P&S
* Shine Mate
* Scholl

automotivesuperstore
* Meguiars Professional

I see shin mate mentioned a lot, how are the seen as a DA manufacturer where your from? The make Adams polishers here...


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[wristymanchego]

I see shin mate mentioned a lot, how are the seen as a DA manufacturer where your from? The make Adams polishers here...


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Shinemate is seen much like shinemaster; quality for a reasonable price.

Detailers here use rupes and flex also, however we’re a country founded on value for money (we stole our land) so brand image alone isn’t going to sell a tool. It’s what you can do with it that matters.

Adams is also here in Australia.

[phatrs]

Product is aplenty in Australia, mate, just not retail.

Here’s a few to get you going...


Apexcustoms
* carpro
* Scholl
* Menzerna

I only found my Apex through their Gumtree ads. The others that I could find were all aimed at pros. ie a lot more than $100-200 unlike Amazon in the US where they seem to have a lot of consumer grade stuff. Bunnings and co only had the crappy buffers that use elastic bonnets instead of Velcro backed pads. Supercheapauto also had a DA but didn’t keep it in stock in their stores, which was no good because I wanted to see it in person.

That what I was able to find anyway.


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I only found my Apex through their Gumtree ads. The others that I could find were all aimed at pros. ie a lot more than $100-200 unlike Amazon in the US where they seem to have a lot of consumer grade stuff. Bunnings and co only had the crappy buffers that use elastic bonnets instead of Velcro backed pads. Supercheapauto also had a DA but didn’t keep it in stock in their stores, which was no good because I wanted to see it in person.

That what I was able to find anyway.


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Haven’t personally used their 15mm but the Adams Swirl killer seams to get good reviews here and is a relabeled Shinemate from what I understand. Basically not on par with the Flex’s,Griot’s or even the Roopez’z but a great consumer use product. I trusted enough based on Autopians and Geeks that I ordered their 3” 12mm. Maybe look into the shinemates.


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[wristymanchego]

I only found my Apex through their Gumtree ads. The others that I could find were all aimed at pros. ie a lot more than $100-200 unlike Amazon in the US where they seem to have a lot of consumer grade stuff. Bunnings and co only had the crappy buffers that use elastic bonnets instead of Velcro backed pads. Supercheapauto also had a DA but didn’t keep it in stock in their stores, which was no good because I wanted to see it in person.

That what I was able to find anyway.


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Your machine is fine.

Looks like you might need to invest in some decent pads.

Hit up detailingshed and get yourself a bunch of lake country SDO pads. It will set you back a bit but if you care for them they’ll last a couple years.

[phatrs]

Your machine is fine.

Looks like you might need to invest in some decent pads.

Hit up detailingshed and get yourself a bunch of lake country SDO pads. It will set you back a bit but if you care for them they’ll last a couple years.

Thanks! I just had a look and the Lake Country SDO pads seem very reasonably priced. Now I’m itching to have a go at improving my paint!


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[wristymanchego]

Thanks! I just had a look and the Lake Country SDO pads seem very reasonably priced. Now I’m itching to have a go at improving my paint!


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They’re a seriously good pad; value for money and effective.

[Accumulator]

Note that with some products, "Less is more" applies, e.g., I get the best results out of the HD products I`ve used with *very* little product on the pad.

How much product to use when priming can vary from "hardly any" to "Kevin Brown Method-generous". Just depends on what you`re using...

Also, different people can use different techniques, *with the exact same stuff*, and get the same results..just so many variables!

Be a bit careful about using short work-times with diminishing abrasive products lest you wipe `em off before they`ve broken down (weird situations notwithstanding).

I *still* don`t understand how anybody can get sling with a RO/DA. I hope that doesn`t sound all critical of anybody who`s experienced it, I`m just scratching my head over how it could happen (assuming the pad`s in proper contact with the panel). I mean..gee, I`ve tilted the polisher so much (to do a tight spot or concentrate its aggressiveness, and no I`m not recommending that!) that only a small portion was touching the paint, and I still never got sling.

[wristymanchego]

Also, different people can use different techniques, *with the exact same stuff*, and get the same results..just so many variables!

Proof that, despite what some (or most) will have you believe, technique has little to no effect on the results beyond consistency.

We’re a slave to the paint, the compound, the pad and the conditions.

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Proof that, despite what some (or most) will have you believe, technique has little to no effect on the results beyond consistency.

We’re a slave to the paint, the compound, the pad and the conditions.

Hope your right. Doin my 1st polish soon and hope it works out.


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[wristymanchego]

Hope your right. Doin my 1st polish soon and hope it works out.


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You’ll be fine mate. The rest comes down to experience and modifying the process based on the above mentioned variables.

No art, no wizardry necessary. Just knowledge, experience, experimentation, attention to detail and following process.

[Accumulator]

Proof that, despite what some (or most) will have you believe, technique has little to no effect on the results beyond consistency...

I dunno...how do you figure? I was actually thinking the opposite!

We’re a slave to the paint, the compound, the pad and the conditions.

IMO, since the specific job will dictate the product/pad/polisher, only the paint and the desired outcome are controlling. Then it`s up to the Detailer to be able to determine and apply the appropriate technique for whatever`s called for, using the right stuff.

Don`t mean to be contentious, just finding our apparently different takes on this to be an interesting discussion