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    Re: New polishers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 512detail View Post
    can someone enlighten me on what difference the spinning makes?

    does a circular object not rotate the same speed clockwise as it does counterclockwise?

    I can`t help but think of that episode of the Simpsons now about toilet flushing.
    It doesn`t, but we are used to machines spinning clockwise and are muscles have adapted to that. When users first grab the Flex 3401 it feels unnatural if they`ve used other tools in the past, especially a rotary.

    I`ve been harping this for years now, but our tools should have a switch on them to change rotation, much like an electric drill has. Cars are symmetric and there are always certain areas where it`s easier to tackle one side of the car because of how the tool spins vs, the other side (pad spinning off the edge vs. cutting into the edge). I see no reason it can`t be done.

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    I`m excited about the Makita. My Makita rotary is my workhorse and I`d love to add a Makita DA to compliment it.

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    Re: New polishers?

    Quote Originally Posted by RaskyR1 View Post
    I can`t imagine it being any smoother than my PE-14
    Same thoughts, exactly. PE-14 is so damn smooth, how can it get any better?
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    Re: New polishers?

    Quote Originally Posted by RaskyR1 View Post
    It doesn`t, but we are used to machines spinning clockwise and are muscles have adapted to that. When users first grab the Flex 3401 it feels unnatural if they`ve used other tools in the past, especially a rotary.

    I`ve been harping this for years now, but our tools should have a switch on them to change rotation, much like an electric drill has. Cars are symmetric and there are always certain areas where it`s easier to tackle one side of the car because of how the tool spins vs, the other side (pad spinning off the edge vs. cutting into the edge). I see no reason it can`t be done.
    Im used to the way my Rupes spin currently, it`s all I`ve ever used.

    that flex did seem foreign when I used it at DF

    i like the switch idea


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    Re: New polishers?

    Quote Originally Posted by dcjredline View Post
    So long throw cuts better blah blah blah, then why do they need a forced rotation DA? Why would they copy FLEX instead of FLEX getting into the long throw? Weird
    First of all, RUPES is certainly not copying FLEX. RUPES innovated and has sold a gear-driven polisher for over twenty years. To our research, we where one of the first to do so and by a significant margin.

    Second, gear driven polishers are not popular in Europe, and RUPES` roots are in the bodyshop market in Europe. When the 21 was released they didn`t even understand the concept of detailing. The 15 was made as a response to the USA detailed market which is why it says Detailer on it.

    There are a number draw backs to gear driven polishers: fatigued, steering (in the wrong direction often), heat,vibration, etc.

    With the new Mille (me-lay), we believe we have found a significant solution to those problems. The Mille provides exceptional cutting power with minimal heat and very little steering. It will feel more like a random orbital polisher than a gear driven. You could say Otis a solution that has been 20 years in the making.

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    Re: New polishers?

    The polisher wars are going to get even more interesting now with these new offerings from Rupes and the new Makita DA/FR.

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    Re: New polishers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joel79 View Post
    I have Nano, Mini, Duetto, 15Mk2 and 21Mk2 and Flexi Pe 14-2. Lol i think i want that Rupes rotary, even though i dont use rotary much at all, maybe for jewelling. Im sure that forced da will be better than Flex, but im not interested. 15-21 mk2 will cut faster and stalling is not a problem at all.
    I still have a problem with stalling with my 15 MK2 I don`t know if I`m doing something wrong or not.


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    Re: New polishers?

    Dylan, when will the new Rupes be unleashed into the world?

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    Re: New polishers?

    I`ve been putting a TON of hard miles on my BOSS 15 (washer modded) and other than having to switch out the brushes occasionally, it just keeps chugging away. But last weekend I was working on my new Ram big horn and used my MKII 15 (washer modded) for the first time in a few months and it reminded me why it`s in a league of it`s own as far as quality and performance. Both machines have the washer mod, but I swear speed 4 on the rupes machine is the equivelant to speed 6 on the boss. Also, the vibration is SIGNIFICANTLY less on the Rupes machine and overall the Boss 15 just feels a bit more cumbersome. Made me realize that even if my rupes MKII 15 poops out on me now that it`s out of warranty, even if I have to buy another it will pay for it`s 100x over so I may as well use it and just hope nothing happens.

    Todd, Dylan or anyone else that can answer my question.....what do you guys recommend for maintaining the bigfoot polishers? Since I have the washer mod installed, from what I understand there is no benefit of adding oil to the shroud since the backing plate doesn`t make contact. I will try to remember to use compressed air to blow out the vents every time I use the tool...should I be checking the brushes? How often are we supposed to replace the brushes? Where can we buy them?

    Also, as someone that started polishing with the Dewalt 849 and now own the 849x, I have wanted to buy a nicer rotary but due to the awful experience I had with the FLEX 3401, I decided to stick with the 849x for now and wait to see if Rupes would bring a rotary polisher to the states. It`s a great move and I think if any company could show that there`s nothing to be afraid of with a rotary, it`s rupes. I have a feeling it will be massively successful.
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    Re: New polishers?

    Quote Originally Posted by dcjredline View Post
    So long throw cuts better blah blah blah, then why do they need a forced rotation DA? Why would they copy FLEX instead of FLEX getting into the long throw? Weird
    Yeah it cuts more. Umm why did Flex make 15mm throw polisher? Weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaskyR1 View Post
    I`m curious about the rotary too! I can`t imagine it being any smoother than my PE-14 and it looks like it may be larger as well. Maybe someone can post a pic side by side but I love my PE-14.
    The Rotary is "ok" IMO. I have it, it`s definitely smooth but louder than the PE, no variable trigger either. I like it but I prefer PE any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlmccarty2000 View Post
    At $21.99 it will remain a secret to me.
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    Re: New polishers?

    Anyone find it funny that on the same day Makita "revealed" their new polisher that Rupes did the same?
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    Wondering if I need a new polisher....
    Formerly the "Best Detailer", now just Super Wax Waster Man. Not necessarily tactful, but normally right. It`s good to be da King !!!
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    Re: New polishers?

    This forum seems to a bias towards wants rather than needs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlmccarty2000 View Post
    At $21.99 it will remain a secret to me.
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    Re: New polishers?

    Yep, I wants one. Lol
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