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    Is it doable? what products/pads do you use? and what speeds?

    For some reason I feel like jewelings a Rotary specific thing...



    and thinking i`ll apply glaze by flex via red LC CCS... any thoughts?

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    A Flex with a black pad using PO85RD at speed 5 can do a nice job.

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    what about pressure wise? do i just let the weight of the machine do it`s thing? or do i have to push down like with the compound step?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexshimshimhae
    what about pressure wise? do i just let the weight of the machine do it`s thing? or do i have to push down like with the compound step?
    Light to med pressure until the 85rd breaks down and then no pressure.

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    how long do i work it after it clears out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexshimshimhae
    how long do i work it after it clears out?
    As long as need be, but don`t dry buff.

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    maaaaan lol it`s experiment time rofl i get the feeling i wont see too much of a difference but who knows =]

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    Not just a rotary thing; I do most of mine (when I bother ) with the Cyclo. Pressure/etc. depends on the product and all the other factors, but I often use basically zero applied pressure even on the Audis. IMO (and different people see this stuff differently) this step is doing work that`s basically microscopic and I want it to be as gentle as possible while still accomplishing a little something.



    So no, I don`t think you`ll see *much* of a difference, but by the time you start jeweling/burnishing it should alreadly look perfect. I can hardly ever see a difference that I can really verbalize, it`s just that the overall vehicle looks "different" in a positive way, at least in the right lighting and when taken as a whole. Note that you gotta be careful to avoid "seeing what you want to see"

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    lol is there a diff between applying a glaze and jeweling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexshimshimhae
    lol is there a diff between applying a glaze and jeweling?


    Yes, when jeweling or burnishing (different terms for basically the same process) you are trying to take leveling the paint to the furthest possible level. You are using a polish with the (theoretically) the smallest abrasives to level the paint to the finest degree and you are using the softest pad so as not to leave pad abrasion. Once you are finished jeweling you clean all of the polish off. When applying a glaze on the other hand, you are putting a production on the paint for it to stay. The glaze is meant to give the paint a wetter and "deeper" look.

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    THanks a ton for clearing that up! is there anything i shoudl oook out for glazes when applying sealant`s or waxes? or are they pretty much lsp/sealant safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexshimshimhae
    THanks a ton for clearing that up! is there anything i shoudl oook out for glazes when applying sealant`s or waxes? or are they pretty much lsp/sealant safe


    Relatively few glazes work OK with sealants. DWG is the most notable exception and it does work fine with most anything. Until recently, glazes were strictly for use with waxes or by themselves.



    But you could probably get by just fine without any glazes, especially if you have SRP on hand.



    Only time I`ve used glazes since forever is on fresh repaints (traditional glazes are fresh-paint-friendly); got some DWG back before Bob went out of business, but so far it`s just sat there on the shelf.



    For that matter, you could probably forget about jeweling/burnishing and never have any worries. Not like "normal people" will ever notice it anyhow, and one "regular" or "normal" wash will more than undo any such effect. No reason to be concerned with microscopic issues when most people can`t even notice or maintain macroscopic standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator
    Not just a rotary thing; I do most of mine (when I bother ) with the Cyclo. Pressure/etc. depends on the product and all the other factors, but I often use basically zero applied pressure even on the Audis. IMO (and different people see this stuff differently) this step is doing work that`s basically microscopic and I want it to be as gentle as possible while still accomplishing a little something.



    So no, I don`t think you`ll see *much* of a difference, but by the time you start jeweling/burnishing it should alreadly look perfect. I can hardly ever see a difference that I can really verbalize, it`s just that the overall vehicle looks "different" in a positive way, at least in the right lighting and when taken as a whole. Note that you gotta be careful to avoid "seeing what you want to see"
    Have you tried Ultrafina with a blue 3M pad @ 1800 rpms? I ask because maybe im seeing what I want to see. LOL

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    When I have run it at speed 5 medium pressure (the pad is firmly against the paint) and then backing off the pressure slightly as it clears. It has a nice transition on the flex to clear. The amount of time depends mainly depends on how much polish you use. I have used a 20 x 20 work area.

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    i guess the jeweling would`ve been more for me and for maybe my finickiest `customers` =]



    if i jewel, theoretically, when i put down a sealant or wax, it should help it stand out a bit more right?

 

 
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