The Rupes BIGFOOT LHR 21E is heading to the USA!!!

**Kevin Brown** · 11-25-2012, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by CEE DOG

...As for the towel and pad analogy I would disagree that it`s a fair comparison. What I am saying is the edge of the pad is not more contaminated in the manner theoretically suggested. If it was we would find a different end result which I do not see. Perhaps it is due to a completely different technique, tools, etc. but I don`t see it. Rather it seems all the particles including polish and paint are cut to a size that does not affect the finish and are evenly pressed into the pad pores or dust off away from the surface. As long as it`s made clean after each section there isn`t an issue and the finish can be flawless in the real world regardless of theory.

Thank you,

Corey

It is typical to see the edge of a buffing pad become more laden with particulate. Unless you`re throwing some tilt on the pad like you might commonly do using a rotary polisher. Okay, maybe a lot of tilt.

Having too much fun while you buff?!? Are you "popping" one-way buffing pad "wheelies", and the actual "trailing edge" of your pad is underneath the pad face? :clap2: I`m not sure what was lost in the translation. :nixweiss

**CEE DOG** · 11-25-2012, 11:49 AM

Ahhhh, no I see what your saying. Completely misunderstood definition of edge. Certainly the outer vs inner polishing surface of the pad receives varying amount of use and abuse and cuts more of the paint than the latter.

**Kevin Brown** · 11-26-2012, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Accumulator

Kevin Brown- Your best guess...how would those flared 3" pads work out on the GG 3" pneumatic RO

I`m wondering if that machine deals with "taller" pads all that well.

I can`t recall the stroke on that machine, maybe 3/16" or 1/4" total?

Can you confirm?

These pads seem to be less pliable, more rigid than the typical pad. Don`t read that as meaning they`ll scour, but that they are slower to respond to pressure changes. In other words, the foam used on the four different pads respond more like memory foam than a typical pad.

Could just be a bias or initial impression on my part, so I`ll "investigate" today to confirm.

**Accumulator** · 11-26-2012, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin Brown

I`m wondering if that machine deals with "taller" pads all that well.

I can`t recall the stroke on that machine, maybe 3/16" or 1/4" total?

Can you confirm?

I`ll try to determine the stroke next time I`m out in the shop messing around with it.

I somehow suspect that those pads might be best left for machines like the Rupes, especially given that "slower response time" ... :think:

**SVR** · 11-27-2012, 01:23 AM

I loved reading page nine and ten with kevin`s post about abraded paint residue

I own the Metabo SXE400 and for what I paid, I think it`s a marvelous little machine with a good amount of grunt even with just 3mm orbit throw

finishes fantastic with any pad, corrects better than a pneumatic rotary and possibly even a makita 9227 rotary with a small pad on it. RO with high power, medium to large throw, high speed - 4,000 to 13,000 or more and a stiff plate is a weapon

can`t jewel paint like a rotary though

the best way to clean pads after each section is compressed air.

**LilJayV10** · 11-28-2012, 11:52 PM

Will MF pads work well with the Rupes?

**Wheelzntoys** · 11-29-2012, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by LilJayV10

Will MF pads work well with the Rupes?

http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine...rs-g110v2.html

**gmblack3** · 11-29-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by LilJayV10

Will MF pads work well with the Rupes?

Like a Boss!

**Legacy** · 01-03-2013, 06:14 PM

Any updates on the Rupes? Does the 21 finish down well enough or do you need a 15? Does it bog down with about 20lbs. of pressure?

**autoconcierge** · 01-04-2013, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Legacy99

Any updates on the Rupes? Does the 21 finish down well enough or do you need a 15? Does it bog down with about 20lbs. of pressure?

You can do everything with the 21mm machine.

**Barry Theal** · 01-04-2013, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin Brown

Having too much fun while you buff?!? Are you "popping" one-way buffing pad "wheelies", and the actual "trailing edge" of your pad is underneath the pad face? :clap2: I`m not sure what was lost in the translation. :nixweiss

Whats wrong with that? :lol1: I loved this group of wording Kevn. Is this what you mean by wheelies?:chuckle:

**mikenap** · 01-04-2013, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Legacy99

Any updates on the Rupes? Does the 21 finish down well enough or do you need a 15? Does it bog down with about 20lbs. of pressure?

I`m absolutely amazed by this machine, and I think it may have actually won over one of my "rotary-only" friends after just one use. This machine is everything people are claiming it to be.

**Legacy** · 01-05-2013, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by mikenap

I`m absolutely amazed by this machine, and I think it may have actually won over one of my "rotary-only" friends after just one use. This machine is everything people are claiming it to be.

Some in the UK say it lacks power and will bog down under medium pressure.

**mikenap** · 01-05-2013, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Legacy99

Some in the UK say it lacks power and will bog down under medium pressure.

Since the BP touches the shroud, I could see that being an issue but with the KB washer installed, it`s a lot harder to bog down.

**autoconcierge** · 01-07-2013, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Legacy99

Some in the UK say it lacks power and will bog down under medium pressure.

Read the same thread on DW, most of the guys who said this think the Flex 3401 is a BETTER machine........................never underestimate the bias of a ill-informed opinion. In addition some even said the cost was prohibitive, wonder what they paid for their Flex 3401 as I remember paying $ 369.00 plus shipping over THREE years ago for mine.