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    Exactly my point, how can you tell a tone from print? I presented my interpretation. I never said it was a fact and I never attacked anyone. You say collusion as if said they were commiting a crime. Its not that serious, its smart product marketing. Be a leader and not a follower,

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooshster
    Exactly my point, how can you tell a tone from print? I presented my interpretation. I never said it was a fact and I never attacked anyone. You say collusion as if said they were commiting a crime. Its not that serious, its smart product marketing. Be a leader and not a follower,


    Actually it is that serious; tone or no tone you attacked the credibility of a respected industry professional. I`d advise you to discontinue your trolling and borderline libelous comments. Your jollies can surely be had elsewhere.
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    So, Garry mentioned his clip in the video, BIG DEAL! Nothing wrong with a lil` self promotion. The basis of the video is CLEARLY on the polishers. There is NO bias in the video review. Garry PHYSICALLY SHOWED us how each one compared, and it was easily discernible that the HD polisher has the most torque! I(formerly 07 z-oh-6) have changed my opinion about a product MANY times...LOL! For example, I initially loved the Flex 3401, now I can`t stand it! Initially, Garry thought the polisher was loud, but the more he used it, it isn`t so bad. Is that so hard to believe??

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    Nice to see ya over here Mark. You must have got you Chevy after all. A change of mind can be a good thing sometimes.lol. Welcome to Autopia.org.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrod66paul
    Nice to see ya over here Mark. You must have got you Chevy after all. A change of mind can be a good thing sometimes.lol. Welcome to Autopia.org.
    Hey Paul, thanks buddy. Yep, ended up with a `12 SS. Bye-bye z06, but bye-bye credit card debt, too! The z06 will leave the SS standing still, but it`s still a fun car and looks .

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooshster
    i wonder if 3d will provide a polisher to someone who has no affiliation with 3d for a comparison as well.


    Lets settle this here and now: I have ZERO affiliation with 3D.....



    David/Tunch/Ben or whomever wants to can send me one and I will do an honest / complete review against all my other machines



    Waiting for the pm.....
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    Just use David`s.



    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Gloss Auto Salon
    Lets settle this here and now: I have ZERO affiliation with 3D.....



    David/Tunch/Ben of whomever wants to can send me one and I will do an honest / complete review against all my other machines



    Waiting for the pm.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Gloss Auto Salon
    Lets settle this here and now: I have ZERO affiliation with 3D.....



    David/Tunch/Ben or whomever wants to can send me one and I will do an honest / complete review against all my other machines



    Waiting for the pm.....


    I offered to do a complete and unbiased, 100% honest review of the polisher also. I also am not affiliated in any way with 3D.

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    Garry did that already. What is wrong with Garry`s review? Why would anybody not trust Garry?



    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Gloss Auto Salon
    Lets settle this here and now: I have ZERO affiliation with 3D.....



    David/Tunch/Ben or whomever wants to can send me one and I will do an honest / complete review against all my other machines



    Waiting for the pm.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Dekany
    What is wrong with Garry`s review? Why would anybody not trust Garry?


    I don`t think I ever said anything was wrong with Gary`s review or his trustworthyness Thomas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Theal
    Ok so this thread is getting interesting. Autopia.org is owned by 3D. I know that and so does everyone else. Yet we all can come here and talk about any product at any given time. I will use myself as as an example. Here some off the forum stuff! I`ll let the cat out. First off, Since 3D has bought autopia.org. I first hand have gained a great friend from it. This guy is Tunch Goren the owner of 3D.

    Tunch is a true gentleman. Just the other day, I was telling how, I like HD Uno, but its not my goto compound. Is HD Uno a nice product? Absolutely it is, but for my compounding methods its not. I prefer something a little heavier when Im doing a serious correction. Tunch says to me. Hey Barry what can we do to correct this. I said Tunch make me a compound that is truely a compound. He says ok. Im in Miami now, but when I get to LA, Ill make it happen.



    Long story short. There are many detailers on this forum from highend pros to the everyday car guy looking to learn. Tunch looks at this place as feedback for him to better the business and make everyones lives easier. As a group in whole, we have a man and a team behind this forum who are open to suggestions. We should be taking advantage of this. Your not buying relabeled garage from him. Your buying direct from the manufactuer! If you don`t like 3d/hd products you can ask on this forum about any other manufactuer and get a response of where to buy it and how to use it? Try that on autogeek! It won`t happen. They will banned you on for that! Trust me. lol They sell a wax named after my business and I`m banned from there site for posting a picture of Garry Dean at the 3D after Party.



    Autopia.org is a real open discussion forum that is full of knowledge and great people. Its a place Im proud to call my home away from home! Another great thing is! We also have sponsors like detailers domain who sells other products at great prices! Then there is that other really cool bald guy! Whats his name? ???? Oh yea that right. KEVIN BROWN the freaking man himself. The man who forever changed the industry with a DA. His vast knowledge is availible to all of us exclusively now as a sponsor! Did I mention he sells products as well. Gentleman autopia is growing fast. Hang on for the ride.


    Barry, you always give me so much credit and respect online, which I truly appreciate.



    I am in agreement with you in regards to Tunch. Although I know very little about him, upon spending several hours at the 3D Open House After Dinner Party last year, I went away really liking and respecting the man. I hope for great things for him and his company.



    Finally, while I understand why some guys are pretty riled up over things written in regards to Garry`s points, I think it borders on ridiculous to tell a guy to essentially move on to another forum for injecting his point of view. Are you kidding me? We`re trying to build UP participation on autopia.org, not shoo guys away. AG is smoking every detailing forum out there, Facebook is garnering loads of attention (I use it often myself ), and newbies are afraid to post for fear of looking the fool.



    Have the debate... stick up for a guy... defend your points if you must. Heck, an ear flicking and shoulder bump here and there is fine, once in awhile. If a guy is posting just to make trouble, he`ll eventually be banned or leave on his own. Sometimes though, a guy that seems to rile folks up ends up becoming a mainstay in our industry. Names, anyone?



    I feel a bit out of place "soapboxing it" in regards to anything other than discussions about detailing, paint polishing, technique, etc. I just wonder if this thread would have spread like wildfire, were it not for the drama.



    Anyway... it`s good to see some involvement, but it would be great if it were mostly about machines, or technique, or helping a guy out of a jam, or something related to the "job".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Brown

    I think it borders on ridiculous to tell a guy to essentially move on to another forum for injecting his point of view. Are you kidding me? We`re trying to build UP participation on autopia.org, not shoo guys away.



    newbies are afraid to post for fear of looking the fool.



    Sometimes though, a guy that seems to rile folks up ends up becoming a mainstay in our industry. Names,anyone?


    Very, very good points and very well said Kevin, I completely agree.

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    Another thing: as many of you know, I am SOOO affiliated with Meguiar`s. Yet, lots of guys trust what I say, and ask for recommendations or advice about polishes, machines, and technique. I believe this is because I make every effort to be honest in regards to my advice. If my opinions & advice lacked merit, the e-mails, calls, and texts would cease altogether.



    Regardless the chance to gain something... plenty of people are able to give unbiased opinions and advice.



    Had Garry removed his original video, or removed stuff like "This polisher is as loud as a freight train, but it is really a solid offering.", I might be a bit skeptical as well... but he didn`t.



    Anyhoo...

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    Well.... This thread has really gone South...



    I truly do hope that some of you took something good away from this particular video. I am not biased, but I am a big fan of 3D/HD... I also love Meguiars, Ultima, Four Star, Optimum, etc...



    I put a lot of effort into making this video and I was as honest as I could be. I do really enjoy the HD polisher and from my testing it does have the most torque. It does produce a different, high pitched whining sound that the other polishers dont have, but it is not an issue for me after using it for over a week. Hell... Maybe Im just used to it by now...



    I appreciate all of you who have my back and to those of you who don`t... Well, its just too bad. Its a sad day in Autopialand.



    I will continue to make these videos and I will continue to post them. Thanks to all who appreciate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gooshster
    Exactly my point, how can you tell a tone from print? I presented my interpretation. I never said it was a fact and I never attacked anyone. You say collusion as if said they were commiting a crime. Its not that serious, its smart product marketing. Be a leader and not a follower,


    What exactly is your point Gooshter. Or should I call you Chaos or KennyR. Two other users who log in from your ip.. Any other user names you would like to share with us.



    You do know that having more than one user name is a clear violation of Autopia`s Terms of Use...





    So 22 post and ever single one has been to bad mouth 3D/Autopia. Not a post on any other topic. Do you have any plans to post anything that would benifit the community? I do see your point loud and clear....



    Why not just create the user Troll next time...
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