Car Dealership Detailing In Action!

[Dan]

Hey Jeff, happy thanksgiving!



Can you post up some pics after wiping off all the oils and illuminated with halogens?

[Jeff Suggs]

DaGonz standing by some vehicles does`nt impress anyone. I removed epoxy overspray from175 vehicles in the building that the Ford GT40 video was shot. None of you have ever repaired this many cars from paint damage, not just can I wash your car and wax please. The total value of the vehicles on the 250 car group of POCI vintage & muscle car show and the privite owner of 175 cars is over $45,000,000 dollars. The videos are on my Youtube, Vimeo, Dailymotion, and websites from all over the world that feature my videos. You dudes have no idea who I am, you just start putting people down. It must really hurt to see my videos and come to realize that you really are nothing but car washers & simple detailers.

[Jeff Suggs]

That is real bug talk behind a key board. Did your dad not teach you to be a man. By the way everyone your **** talking is what started all these comments. I am not trying to make friends or influence anyone. I travel all over the world Russia, Japan, China, Dubai and everyone that I have ever met has never put my work down. The Reason behind that is the fact that you dudes are simple in the head. You would never even dream of preforming the kind of work demonstrated in my videos. Can any of you remove hard water stains, i can the videos are there. Can any of you pros remove overspray from auto moldings, i can and have the videos to prove it. Can any of you remove Protective and marine coatings overspray damage, I can the videos are everywhere.

[Jeff Suggs]

Anyone can stand by a car and take a photo, not impressed at all. You want to see real damage and the repairs done. Go to Youtube and type in "paint overspray removal" believe me you won`t see any of your friends here come up. The videos that you will see out of thousands of others will be mine of course. Check out my Youtube featured video, Black Ford mustang. This car has lots of scratches that I show you with my HD camera. I remove every scratch and the overspray without any compounds or wetsanding. I am the only person that demonstrates how i repair this vehicle. Everyone else just runs a slid show

[smokinfastlegen]

I take offense to being told that we are just Wax on wax offers on this website. I for sure know I didnt clean this porsche with a wipe on wipe off method:











I am curious how long it would take you to get a similar result as well as what steps you would take to get there.



We (autopia) may have gotten off on the wrong foot, but the gross inaccuracies portrayed to Youtube viewers is what caused us to be so harsh. Claying through wax is a rediculous thought, as many have said before, the wax will cause it not to grab on to the contaminants. Believe it or not, clay is actually abrasive! Some clays more than others.



As far as everyone else running a slide show, its because with the proper amount of time to detail a car, the battery on your hd camera would be dead.

[DaC]

Anyone can stand by a car and take a photo, not impressed at all. You want to see real damage and the repairs done. Go to Youtube and type in "paint overspray removal" believe me you won`t see any of your friends here come up. The videos that you will see out of thousands of others will be mine of course. Check out my Youtube featured video, Black Ford mustang. This car has lots of scratches that I show you with my HD camera. I remove every scratch and the overspray without any compounds or wetsanding. I am the only person that demonstrates how i repair this vehicle. Everyone else just runs a slid show

Great work on the mustang Jeff.... I must admit, with some cars you just seems to go crazy trying to get it done, but on other I can see you take your time. I guess there`s just too much unnecessary heat between you and the guys over here and also neither sides should be trashing others work, this is just not good professional ethics.

This black mustang remembers me a car from a friend of mine I polished... I`m really not a pro, this was just the 3rd car I polished, just for hobby...



Before





During





And After





You can check the video at: High End Polishing - VW Polo 20111030 - YouTube

Sorry but it was a rainy day in the end as you can see, so no sun shots.... but the HQI lamps can give a very good idea after a wipe down with mineral spirits of the correction I was able to achieve.



I hope you enjoy it.

[Thomas Dekany]

It is interesting how you are accusing people of it (putting people down), yet at the end of your very next sentence you do it. It maybe true that ""we" DON`T KNOW YOU, but that also goes for you. You don`t know any of us either.

You dudes have no idea who I am, you just start putting people down. It must really hurt to see my videos and come to realize that you really are nothing but car washers & simple detailers.

[DaGonz]

DaGonz standing by some vehicles does`nt impress anyone. I removed epoxy overspray from175 vehicles in the building that the Ford GT40 video was shot. None of you have ever repaired this many cars from paint damage, not just can I wash your car and wax please. The total value of the vehicles on the 250 car group of POCI vintage & muscle car show and the privite owner of 175 cars is over $45,000,000 dollars. The videos are on my Youtube, Vimeo, Dailymotion, and websites from all over the world that feature my videos. You dudes have no idea who I am, you just start putting people down. It must really hurt to see my videos and come to realize that you really are nothing but car washers & simple detailers.

No.. it really hurts to watch you "attack" vehicles with a rotary and wool pad without doing proper prep work...

[Ron Ketcham]

Hey Jeff, happy thanksgiving!



Can you post up some pics after wiping off all the oils and illuminated with halogens?

Dan, when I retired from active business, bought my little house in a nice neighborhood, small town.

All the neighbors greeted me, made good friends, depend on each other, watch out for each others homes when out of town, help with some chores for the older ones, etc.

The first spring I was here, several of the neighbors were upset about all the varmits that were coming around at night.

Looked at a few things and pointed out that they were leaving some "food sources" that attacted the racoons, possums, mice, rats, etc.

We got together and stopped the leaving of food available to them and in a week or so, most were gone.

Some people will act like varmits as well, only they seek ego gratisfaction, since they have a problem with their self esteem.

The normal, everyday folks on this forum have gotten along very well since the change of ownership of the forum.

Now appears we have a varmit feeding on posts that regard him or his supposidly good work.

I for one and not going to post again on any thread where the varmit feeds.

Just a thought,

Grumpy

[Barry Theal]

Jeff,



First off, as a moderator of Autopia, Welcome to the forum. I`m sorry that many of our members see things differently then you do. Keep in mind that you have some of the world`s best detailers on this site. Our members range from people who are new to detailing to some of the worlds finest talent. Then there are some very educated people in the automotive industry on this site. Many people read this site, some in which just lurk and not say a word. Then there are others who like to speak there mind. This is a great site indeed. We are very open about many things. As Autopians we try to practice the safest and most effectivce methods when it comes to vehicle car care. Im sure there are other ways of doing things. trust me I have made many mistakes over my career as a detailer. If you feel your methods for overspray removal are the right way. I would love to hear why. I think its great that you have traveled the world doing what you love to do. Detailing cars has taken me many places as well. I look foward to hearing more about your process in depth.



Scrape on Scrape off....

Barry Theal

[Thomas Dekany]

1 - this statement is the key here and why Autopians are "giving you a hard time". While I haven`t seen your work in person and it maybe fantastic, based on what is seen in your videos i`d say that you cater to fairly low standards. To be honest, that is fine, since top quality work is pricey and most people wouldn`t pay for it. Remember that the average person (that includes everyone at most dealerships) wouldn`t and couldn`t tell if your finish is as good as possible. I am sure that even you aren`t aware how much better you could be. Following the same routine you have learned 20+ years ago proves that point.



2 - again it is funny how you make assumptions of the members here, yet you use terrible grammar to get your point across. I realize that it will not have an affect on one`s skills, but since you brought it up, I thought it deserved a mention.



3 - yes I can remove hard water stains and all of the pros I know who post here also can) done it too many times - not very hard to do. Same with auto moldings, yes I can. Protective and marine coatings, the answer it yes. I can also remove RIDS/scratches from 3M clear bras.



Now, can you prove that you can level paint, not just glaze over it to look ok for a week. Are you willing to take that challenge? Out of all your videos or pictures, can you give us a link or post pictures/videos here to prove that we are wrong?



If you even reply to my post, repeating how you are the only one who removes overspray will not count.



Thanks for reading Jeff.



PS: I can post an example if you are not clear what you should be looking for.

That is real bug talk behind a key board. Did your dad not teach you to be a man. By the way everyone your **** talking is what started all these comments. I am not trying to make friends or influence anyone. I travel all over the world Russia, Japan, China, Dubai and everyone that I have ever met has never put my work down. The Reason behind that is the fact that you dudes are simple in the head. You would never even dream of preforming the kind of work demonstrated in my videos. Can any of you remove hard water stains, i can the videos are there. Can any of you pros remove overspray from auto moldings, i can and have the videos to prove it. Can any of you remove Protective and marine coatings overspray damage, I can the videos are everywhere.

[C. Charles Hahn]

BC2 is sorta like a diminishing abrasive version of D151 from Meguiar`s.

So it`s just like M66 (D151`s predecessor), then....

Look guys i don`t any of you, and would never post on your videos.

Isn`t it a bit too late for you to make that statement? I mean, you already did post on the video of an Autopia member.



Opti-Coat 2.0 application.wmv - YouTube

[autoaesthetica]

So it`s just like M66 (D151`s predecessor), then....







Isn`t it a bit too late for you to make that statement? I mean, you already did post on the video of an Autopia member.



Opti-Coat 2.0 application.wmv - YouTube

I would say M66 cleans a gazillion times better chemically, BC2 doesn`t chemically clean as well, and D151 I think is a 30/30/30(correct,fill,clean) breakdown. But I think BC2 is sorta the competitor product. It`s nice by DA





On the subject of the video of Rasky while staying out of the bickering here because I think we all know my feeling on this, in Rasky`s video Charlie posted you wouldn`t even be able to tell if it was swirled or not - wrong, non direct only ambient lightning. All of Rasky`s other videos show him eliminating swirls and defect..

[Nth Degree]

You would never even dream of preforming the kind of work demonstrated in my videos.

You`ve got that right! I don`t think anyone here would disagree on that point.

I have made many mistakes over my career as a detailer. If you feel your methods for overspray removal are the right way. I would love to hear why.

Jeff,



It may be possible that you have certain knowledge or skills that others could learn from, but just as you ask for "video proof" of others work, you are being asked to do more than say "I`m the best and the rest of you are clueless." Please provide a logical explanation rather than an emotional one. Some possible points for discussion:



How many microns are removed by your polishing, especially with wool pad on edge and passing over convex angles?



How do you polish over plastic trim with a 10" wool pad on a rotary @ ~1800 rpm without burning it?



How do you safely polish over painted plastic emblems and badges without damage?



In 30 years you must have plenty of knowledge about the risks and dangers of your methods and a specialized technique that you have developed that all these other top detailers are not yet aware of. Again... supporting EVIDENCE of YOUR work is what is being requested, not criticizing other`s. People here have stated why your methods are risky and why the TRUE results are questioned.

I am sure that even you aren`t aware how much better you could be. Following the same routine you have learned 20+ years ago proves that point.

Jeff,



If you have something to teach there are many here willing to learn. Are you open to learning? I am sure everyone here has learned something along the way that made them think "I wish I had learned that long ago." A genuine discussion of the pros and cons of techniques using scientific evidence could very well make all of us better detailers. If you are unwilling to partake in such a discussion then one can only assume it is because you FEAR you may have nothing of value to contribute. Please educate us and allow us to educate you.

[C. Charles Hahn]

I would say M66 cleans a gazillion times better chemically, BC2 doesn`t chemically clean as well, and D151 I think is a 30/30/30(correct,fill,clean) breakdown. But I think BC2 is sorta the competitor product. It`s nice by DA

Gotcha.