Car Dealership Detailing In Action!

**Nth Degree** · 11-22-2011, 08:03 PM

I think I know who C & D consults for their detailing articles.

**maxepr1** · 11-22-2011, 08:10 PM

I`ve had the pleasure of fixing some of this guy`s work! He does lots of work for dealerships in the area and my customer took it to the dealer to have fence stain removed. Needless to say I spent 15 hours if I remember right on his MDX! Thanks Jeff! Keep up the good work! I think they make other pads for rotaries?? A man could make good money just following behind this guy doing clean-up work!

**JohnKleven** · 11-22-2011, 08:41 PM

Looking good Barry

**Ron Ketcham** · 11-22-2011, 09:27 PM

Not to defend the "work" that all are throwing down on, however there is a total "missing" of why such takes place.

Most here have not a "clue" of how a new car or used car dealership works, what management people are in place, how those who are management are under the "gun" of the daily operating control for each day, how penny`s are dollars to these people.

They hire minmum wage employees and pound their butts everyday to "get the iron out the door and on the lot!".

These who are hired are also fired, daily, if they don`t meet the "dollar figure per vehicle", if they butt heads with the "manager" of the new car or used car department, you know "the suits"!

Don`t knock those who do the work, and yes, most don`t have a clue of what most here know, but they "need a paycheck", no matter how small, so they do what they are told to do, to get the check.

Think about this before you say things about the person doing the job.

Instead, consider the business side of this and that the "suit" is who you should be addressing your opinions towards.

Grumpy

**Nth Degree** · 11-22-2011, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by maxepr1

A man could make good money just following behind this guy doing clean-up work!

I had that exact thought.

Originally Posted by Ron Ketcham

Not to defend the "work" that all are throwing down on, however there is a total "missing" of why such takes place.

Most here have not a "clue" of how a new car or used car dealership works, what management people are in place, how those who are management are under the "gun" of the daily operating control for each day, how penny`s are dollars to these people.

They hire minmum wage employees and pound their butts everyday to "get the iron out the door and on the lot!".

These who are hired are also fired, daily, if they don`t meet the "dollar figure per vehicle", if they butt heads with the "manager" of the new car or used car department, you know "the suits"!

Don`t knock those who do the work, and yes, most don`t have a clue of what most here know, but they "need a paycheck", no matter how small, so they do what they are told to do, to get the check.

Think about this before you say things about the person doing the job.

Instead, consider the business side of this and that the "suit" is who you should be addressing your opinions towards.

Grumpy

Good point, Grumpy.

What bothers me most, and probably many others here, is that this type of work is the cause of the lack of understanding by the general public about what it takes to get "true" good results. They simply see the car has improved, but don`t realize it is an illusion or that there is so much more potential. They are essentially selling a brand new Mercedes, then switching it for a used Kia.

**Dan** · 11-22-2011, 10:15 PM

Ron,

Its one this to do the work and get a paycheck. Its another to ham it up and throw it on youtube.

**C. Charles Hahn** · 11-22-2011, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dan

Ron,

Its one this to do the work and get a paycheck. Its another to ham it up and throw it on youtube.

:werd: This guy obviously takes "pride" in what he is doing, and he doesn`t appear to realize he`s doing it wrong.

**mikenap** · 11-22-2011, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Shiny Lil Detlr

:werd: This guy obviously takes "pride" in what he is doing, and he doesn`t appear to realize he`s doing it wrong.

Exactly. Look at all the "clay through the wax" garbage he spews.

**VW 91** · 11-22-2011, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by mikenap

Exactly. Look at all the "clay through the wax" garbage he spews.

Or how he goes on to say that the paint is perfect when in reality it is trashed underneath. I understand he is trying to make a paycheck, and see the "business" side of it, but this man seems almost delusional as he thinks that the paint is *really* 100% defect free when he`s done.

**imported_paintxpert** · 11-22-2011, 11:10 PM

Good thing the Sun was not out!!!! Wool pad with no clue. This car has got to be loaded with wheel marks!!! My Dad was the meat-cutter in our family! This guy should join the imalgumated meat -cutters union. Where did he learn this technique???

**Bert** · 11-22-2011, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Dan

Ron,

Its one this to do the work and get a paycheck. Its another to ham it up and throw it on youtube.

My guess is this guy was trained this way and doesn`t realize the harm he is doing and assumes he is doing a good job.

**Junebug** · 11-23-2011, 08:30 AM

I know body shops have changed and evolved since I worked at one (part time after school) but there seems to still be that buff and glaze technique that lives on today. The painters I worked with buffed out fresh paint with wool and rocks in the bottle compound and I would go behind with Pink Glaze (smelled like cat piss) we called it Pink Panther Piss, but it would fill in and make that paint look beautiful. Is it still around today or a variation of it? I would say yes, ask my dentist that just flew to Washington DC to buy his wife a pre-owned E350 - balck of course, and let him tell you what he found AFTER a couple washes! I may be wrong, but I haven`t found a dealer that had a detail shop that was worth 2 cents, like Grumpy says - it`s all about turn around time.

**imported_DetailDan** · 11-23-2011, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by JuneBug

I know body shops have changed and evolved since I worked at one (part time after school) but there seems to still be that buff and glaze technique that lives on today. The painters I worked with buffed out fresh paint with wool and rocks in the bottle compound and I would go behind with Pink Glaze (smelled like cat piss) we called it Pink Panther Piss, but it would fill in and make that paint look beautiful. Is it still around today or a variation of it? I would say yes, ask my dentist that just flew to Washington DC to buy his wife a pre-owned E350 - balck of course, and let him tell you what he found AFTER a couple washes! I may be wrong, but I haven`t found a dealer that had a detail shop that was worth 2 cents, like Grumpy says - it`s all about turn around time.

Sorry to hear about that, I could have inspected it for him first.

**Ron Ketcham** · 11-23-2011, 10:26 AM

I never watched the video, I have known, seen, tried to teach etc, idiots like him for decades.

Didn`t feel I needed to watch the same idiotic crap again.

So, I watched it, OH THE HORROR!!!!

Once again, another case for my quest to have some bleach put in the gene pool!!!!!

Grumpy

**RaskyR1** · 11-23-2011, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Ron Ketcham

Not to defend the "work" that all are throwing down on, however there is a total "missing" of why such takes place.

Most here have not a "clue" of how a new car or used car dealership works, what management people are in place, how those who are management are under the "gun" of the daily operating control for each day, how penny`s are dollars to these people.

They hire minmum wage employees and pound their butts everyday to "get the iron out the door and on the lot!".

These who are hired are also fired, daily, if they don`t meet the "dollar figure per vehicle", if they butt heads with the "manager" of the new car or used car department, you know "the suits"!

Don`t knock those who do the work, and yes, most don`t have a clue of what most here know, but they "need a paycheck", no matter how small, so they do what they are told to do, to get the check.

Think about this before you say things about the person doing the job.

Instead, consider the business side of this and that the "suit" is who you should be addressing your opinions towards.

Grumpy

Originally Posted by Dan

Ron,

Its one this to do the work and get a paycheck. Its another to ham it up and throw it on youtube.

Agreed.

Ron, I think most of us here are well aware of how those places are run (most of us having started there). The problem is that he puts up tons of these videos on Youtube opening the door for others new to detailing to adapt his poor techniques. He`s well aware that we disagree with his techniques and he simply chooses not to listen to the advice given to him and he even mocks us in a way. If you watch enough of his videos you`ll see what we mean.