Originally Posted by Barry Theal
Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
The only thing I have to add to this thread is why you make yourself to believe what you are doing is so revolutionary and how you are able to think out of the box. We all know how to remove overspray, polish and restore trim just like we do paint. And your razor technique is not specifically unique to you as you serious cant think that you are the only person in the world thats thought of doing that.
Here is just a thread I just grabbed from a quick search.
http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...ml#post1415550
Originally Posted by lasthope05
In all fairless to Mr. Suggs, I know of no one else using or speaking about this "blading" technique? And as far as trim goes, I`ve yet to see anyone successfully remove overspray from textured trim? Including him.
Do you know of anyone that does?
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Originally Posted by David Fermani
I`ve done it before on paint and its nothing im too proud of. I was removing overspray on glass with a razor blade and thought why it wouldnt work on paint. While it does work well enough on curved panels and at near perpendicular angle to not cut into the paint it does not work well on flat panels as the blade ends slightly scrape. I also remember Kevin Brown mentioned having used the technique before also but only in an extreme case.
I`ve removed overspray before on textured trim, but it is all dependent on what type of substance it is. In my case it was latex paint, which Krud Kutter and IPA took care of.
Originally Posted by lasthope05
Only time I`ve ever heard of/done anything with taking a metal razor blade to paint was when it`s fresh out of the booth, as a means to remove runs in the clear. The key to that technique though is to slightly bend the blade so the ends won`t dig in, and also profiling the edge of the blade against some 1500 grit sandpaper. It`s a similar but inexpensive alternative to a nib file.
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Originally Posted by Shiny Lil Detlr
I`ve done this many time to remove runs as well.
I`ve used a blade to scrape off yellow road paint before on the lowers but it was random splatters and not what I`d call over spray. IME it marrs the paint, and one slight slip and it can do irreparable damage to the paint. I would much rather use clay, chemical, or wet sand off over spray before taking a blade to it. Then again I try to avoid over spray job as much as possible.
Originally Posted by lasthope05
This guy does it day in, day out on entire vehicles. We’ve all used razor blades in isolated occasions like you’re talking about, but not anywhere close to this magnitude. I seriously doubt he’s damaging the paint either with the techniques he’s using. Check out his videos in action and try to duplicate or even come close to his level of smoothness. It’s something that I’m sure takes a long time to accomplish. Kudos to him for that at least. Unless someone can substantiate another entity using this method on entire vehicles as workflow, I’m all for giving the originating designation to this guy.
Originally Posted by lasthope05
It sure does depend on the kind of contaminant and on what surface it’s being removed from as well as the lengths of time it’s been allowed to dwell and under what environment it’s marinated in. More then likely technicians aren’t able to remove it then able to from my experience.
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Originally Posted by RaskyR1
Me too! We use to have great success using Micro-Surface 3600/4000 grit paper on overspray/fallout jobs. And you wouldn`t usually need to use a wool pad to clean the marring up either.
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Thanks Jeff for answering my question. That makes more sense.
Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
Wetsanding to remove overspray reminded me about a product that was brought up briefly over on DB called Nanoskin Autoscrub. Supposedly its a pad that removes above surface contaminates without leaving behind marring. Looks like an interesting product, though there is no reviews on it yet. The lighting is that great in the video but it does look promising.
NANOSKIN AutoScrub is Safe on Black Paint.mp4 - YouTube
Used it at sema. Very nice
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Originally Posted by David Fermani
I`ve used that technique a few times since you first turned me on to it, and especially with the MF DA system clean-up is a breeze and provides true full correction. I think the buffing practices and flawed logic regarding that part of his process are the primary thing we are all taking issue with where Jeff is concerned. The razor blade thing is take it or leave it; but it`s certainly an aggressive technique with a wide margin for error.
If only Jeff would try responding in a mature and professional manner, we might actually get somewhere in a conversation.
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Epic thread
Also, Autoscrub looks awesome!
Originally Posted by Barry Theal
I wouldn`t mind trying that, but I had no clue if it actually works...
Have you had any experience with it outside of sema?
David Fermani you are right it has some glaze properties, but not enough to hide damage. I mention earlier that the first vehicle that I do has to stay looking good for the entire time that I am on the job in all weather conditions. This averages 3 to 4 weeks on each job. The only thing I really use BC-2 for is to buff with, it has just enough cut to buff out light paint damage, and not swirl too much. I use other products that are not mentioned in my videos because the other overspray companies are watching the videos. They use BC-2 so it doesn`t manner if they know of me using that product. I am always looking for new products David and would like you opinion on some of the products sold through Autopia site. There is always something for everyone to learn in this business, and that would include me. I would also like to make a video demonstrating the products that I decide to use. This is a new ad that was made for California clay bar. I tried this clay and its okay but not on an industrial scale of use. Paintoversprayremovaloftexas-com-how-to-claybar-a-vehicle
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