I need another alternative to m205

**solekeeper** · 03-11-2011, 11:23 PM

I`ve been using m205 and an orange LC pad now for awhile, but I absolutely cannot deal with the oils in m205, nor do I have time to go over it again.

After my m205 and the LC pad, I took it outside and it was literally 95 percent corrected. Came back inside and about 10 minutes later it was completely marred.

I`m in a body shop, and i don`t have time for that anymore.

Can someone reccomend me a good 2nd step polish to follow up with after my 105? (I`m thinking menzerna) Something that has a bit more cut and less oils than m205 would be my preference.

thanks guys!

**AeroCleanse** · 03-12-2011, 12:15 AM

Go for a water based polish like System 51 or GTechniq P1 / P2

**solekeeper** · 03-12-2011, 12:24 AM

aero have you used them?

If so, under what circumstances (i sand with 2k grit on body shop clear)

**AeroCleanse** · 03-12-2011, 01:06 AM

I`ve use both System 51 and GTechniq P1. With GTechniq, you might find you don`t need M105. I have used System 51 for a few years in my detailing business, I find P1 does a faster job for me, costs more though.

**solekeeper** · 03-12-2011, 01:11 AM

I was just reading about the GT tehniq, didn`t see them mention anything about correcting wetsanding marks though.

Do you know if this system could handle it?

Pics, etc.?

I also watched a few videos, but those were just regular paint corrections. Looked good though

**imported_DetailDan** · 03-12-2011, 07:37 AM

My bottle of P1 says it can remove 1000 grit sanding marks. The reason I got the GTechniq polishes is because they are water based, contain very little oils, and claims to not fill. I`ve only used P1 once so far though.

**solekeeper** · 03-12-2011, 01:07 PM

Feedback? ^

**Merlin** · 03-12-2011, 01:28 PM

I don`t use M205 with an orange pad. I use it with a white pad.

Have you looked at Menzerna Super Finish (Nano) PO 106 FA?

Cut is comparable to 205 (maybe IMHO very slightly a bit less)

I use 106 in cases where 205 and the paint don`t play together.

I use

Menz SIP w/LC orange

Menz 106 w/LC white

Megs 105 w/LC orange

Megs 205 /LC white

**solekeeper** · 03-12-2011, 01:31 PM

how is the cut on the super finish? (Keep in mind I need something that will take out m105 Wool marks)

**Accumulator** · 03-12-2011, 02:04 PM

I only use M205 as a finishing polish, so I don`t really expect/ask it to do any correction. But yeah, the oils can really bug me too. In many ways, I greatly prefer 1Z High Gloss, and I often use it instead of M205.

**jaynick808** · 03-12-2011, 06:27 PM

as mentioned, gtechniq p1.

pad dependant. go from removing 1000grit with a heavy wool cutting pad all the way to finishing down quite well with a uber green.

it cuts and finishes so well idk what to do with my m105 and m205.

i should mention it finishes down well enough with the right pad that i could comfortably use it as my ONLY polish. *note im not a sungun freak* lol. i use it like how meguiars describes the use of their solo polish

**solekeeper** · 03-12-2011, 08:08 PM

i wish people had pics of the GT techniq in action vs wetsanding correction. i`d really like to see the correction level.

I`ve also heard good things about Optimum spray compound working great as well, but no evidence to prove it as of yet.

**AeroCleanse** · 03-12-2011, 09:34 PM

I haven`t wet sanded. If you want to see if anyone has more info in that area, go to the Detailing World forum at : Gtechniq - Detailing World

**Junebug** · 03-12-2011, 11:31 PM

Why not just use M105 with a foam pad? Try a few different pads and see.

**jaynick808** · 03-13-2011, 12:56 AM

i rarely evertake pics sorry.

im more comfortable with it removing 1500-2000 marks, but the mfg and some well respected detailers say it removes up to 1000 grit. i personally have 2000,3000, and 4000 discs so i have never gave buffing out anything under 2000 a try.

it took out 2000 with ease though. best part is its water soluble. dont need expensive pad conditioners or heavy alcohol based cleaners to remove product.