Bye Bye 3m Trizact! Hello Norton Dryice

**imported_Picus** · 11-11-2010, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by RaskyR1

I really want to do some testing on hand/block sanding vs. DA sanding. We all know DA is faster but I don`t feel it works as well in overall leveling. Sure it knocks down the orange peel really well but I also think it makes the paint have a "ripple" look to it. Most probably would never see the difference though....

Cheers,

Rasky

If it makes any difference that has been my experience too. I find even leveling with 2k grit via block generally leaves a more level surface than 1500 by DA. Of course, as you mentioned it takes a lot more time and the overall benefit is minimal...but we`re all about that last 1% here, right?

One thing I find helps a lot with the DA/ripple thing is going from 1500->2k->3k as opposed to 1500->3k, for example.

**RaskyR1** · 11-11-2010, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Picus

If it makes any difference that has been my experience too. I find even leveling with 2k grit via block generally leaves a more level surface than 1500 by DA. Of course, as you mentioned it takes a lot more time and the overall benefit is minimal...but we`re all about that last 1% here, right?

One thing I find helps a lot with the DA/ripple thing is going from 1500->2k->3k as opposed to 1500->3k, for example.

Yeah, since i picked up the Abralon stuff I have been doing 1500>2000>4000. I really think a lot of it depends on the paint though.

Lately my old man has been using the DA with 1500 for the initial leveling on his cars and then going back over it by hand with a long block and 2000. It`s funny because you will have the surface smooth with the DA (no more low spots showing like you see in the pics above), yet when you go back over with a long block you will see the high points. I think a lot of it has to do with the interface pad too. I gave my old man a bunch of large cookie sheets to paint when he has left over material and I plan to do some testing on them once I get them back. (Thanks KB for the idea)

**RaskyR1** · 11-11-2010, 05:54 PM

Barry...those Norton 3000 disks do look a LOT like the Abralon though....

Trizact left, Arbalon right

close up

**AeroCleanse** · 11-11-2010, 06:10 PM

Where can I get the Abralon`s from?

**Accumulator** · 11-12-2010, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by AeroCleanse

Where can I get the Abralon`s from?

I can`t find the link I posted to another (fairly recent) thread about them, but a quick google/etc. on "Mirka 4000 + sanding disk" oughta bring up some sources. Amazon had some two-packs in various grits that might make for a good intro: Amazon.com: Mirka 8A-241-4000RP 2 pieces 6-Inch P4000 grit Abralon discs: Home Improvement

**RaskyR1** · 11-12-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by AeroCleanse

Where can I get the Abralon`s from?

I ordered mine here

**wannafbody** · 11-13-2010, 12:53 AM

T P Tools carries Mirka IIRC.

**imported_advs1** · 12-21-2010, 03:19 AM

where can you get 6" norton ice 3000 and the dry ice 1500? i cant seem to find these damn things anywhere

**SoCalB6** · 12-21-2010, 08:22 PM

^ me too. I`m dying to try these!

**derek37** · 12-26-2010, 01:02 AM

Thanks for the heads up Barry. Definitely will look into the Nortons. BUT, have I been gone so long that folks are DRY-sanding?:noidea: I would`ve never considered this. Obviously this works out ok; do you sand the same way but with no water? I`ll have to do a search. Great thread.

Derek