getting 90%+ from one step

[Cleaning Fool]

There is the "Holier Than Thou" crowd who feel you can`t do this and you can`t use that if you are a true Autopian..LOL..

[David Fermani]

I agree, and sometimes three if I want the ultimate in depth and clarity on hard Ferrari or Porsche finishes.

Even when we did crappy dealer cars we always followed BLW with foam. I can`t imagine all the $$/time we would have saved on 1000`s of applications that really didn`t need refinement afterwards. (probably would have paid for both kid`s Masters degrees).



Just goes to show how 1 person`s perception of finished is another`s of just starting out. Some think a perfectly brand new car only needs LSP, others automatically go right to polishing. Hence..."Your Mileage Might Vary"

[imported_weekendwarrior]

I have a wetsand and buff scheduled for tomorrow, along with a sample of EZ Creme. I am going to try this shiznit out.

[Barry Theal]

There is the "Holier Than Thou" crowd who feel you can`t do this and you can`t use that if you are a true Autopian..LOL..

Only if them Holier then thou actually knew how to use certain products. They would be better detailers!!! :2thumbs:

[gmblack3]

DJ - why with someone who hasn`t even tried it? Put your energy into :waxing:

Then what are you doing in this thread Thomas? You should put your energy into making money, as I recall that is the only reason you said you are here.

[gmblack3]

There is always going to be questions concerning something or some product unless you have intimate knowledge of a products capabilities in all kinds of situations, that being said this product to me at least is a paint enhancer AFTER the proper corrective techniques have been completed.



For someone doing one step details or quickies, the RIDS and or holograms will be slightly diminished but not corrected because that is not what the product is for anyway and I do not use it in that manner as well as it gives extra depth and a anti-static property to the finish just before your favorite sealant or wax is applied. In addition I have not had one problem with any sealant used as it pertains to bonding etc.....



One particular soft BMW I did a couple of years ago, I completed all the steps then applied the glaze but did a thorough IPA wipedown as at that time I did not have the countless details using this product and was concerned it might mask something only to pop out at a later time, saw the car at the mall shopping a month or two later in the hot July sun and no issues(of course the car is black) so after that I never looked back...... not once.

Thanks Bob! Reminds me of using ZAIO before Z2/5 after you are 100% happy with your finishing work.

[gmblack3]

Bryan and DJ: You guys both have good points regarding EZ Creme Glaze and both know what you`re doing. It`s actually pretty funny, because I just used it for the first time yesterday on a Jerez Black BMW M3.



Ryan and I performed a full correction, then decided to give the EZ Creme Glaze a try. I never use glazes, but heard this product was a little different. The product goes on super easy and comes off even easier. It really gave the paint a slick feel and wasn`t oily like other glazes. It made the application and removal of Collinite 915 super easy and looked great when we were done.



We already had a perfect finish before the EZCG, so I have no idea if it fills or not, but it made the paint look perfect under the halogens and removes any residue left on the finish before applying the LSP. I really do like it and will continue to test it out on different cars to see if it affects appearance, durability, protection, etc...

Thanks for your input Rick! I talked to Ryan today and he told me of your findings. Please keep us informed. :up

[gmblack3]

I have a wetsand and buff scheduled for tomorrow, along with a sample of EZ Creme. I am going to try this shiznit out.

Looking fwd to hearing your thoughts David!



But be careful what you say, you don`t want to get thrown into the "Holier Than Thou" crowd.



It`s lonely at the top my friend.

[imported_gusbubba]

Really? :spit: I guess the definition of "LSP capable" and "could`ve used some finishing" is user defined, because I use 105/BLW alot and find myself always having to do 2 more polishing steps afterwards on dark colored paint. :nixweiss

David, for details I`m being paid personally by the owner themselves, then I agree some follow-up is necessary to get the paint to where "I" want it.

However, and maybe I should`ve clarified this, the vehicles I`m referring to are dealer jobs. For the little money dealership detailers make per vehicle, the extra finishing is not worth it....especially for a boss or owner who doesn`t know the difference and certainly isn`t going to pay for the extra polishing.

So, if I can get 90% in one step and have it LSP "capable" (not LSP "ready"), then I`ll take it every time.

Some of us have to do the best we can with what we`re given sometimes and don`t have the luxury of having a large, wealthy and discerning client-base in a high income area.

I should probably apologize for making some of my livelihood in a pragmatic, non-Autopian manner.

[David Fermani]

Some of us have to do the best we can with what we`re given sometimes and don`t have the luxury of having a large, wealthy and discerning client-base in a high income area.

Gotcha, but using foam after BLW was the Standard Operating Procedure at my shop when we did $60-$90 complete details on dealer cars. I guess you`re lucky by having dealers that don`t know what compound swirls are. :har:

[Barry Theal]

David, for details I`m being paid personally by the owner themselves, then I agree some follow-up is necessary to get the paint to where "I" want it.

However, and maybe I should`ve clarified this, the vehicles I`m referring to are dealer jobs. For the little money dealership detailers make per vehicle, the extra finishing is not worth it....especially for a boss or owner who doesn`t know the difference and certainly isn`t going to pay for the extra polishing.

So, if I can get 90% in one step and have it LSP "capable" (not LSP "ready"), then I`ll take it every time.

Some of us have to do the best we can with what we`re given sometimes and don`t have the luxury of having a large, wealthy and discerning client-base in a high income area.

I should probably apologize for making some of my livelihood in a pragmatic, non-Autopian manner.

Gus If I were you, I cut deeper scratches with wool and glaze then. You would be surprised what a good glaze can do. When do dealer work like that for low pay. I use to spend my time on the interior and always glaze them! Remember The Shine brings them in but the interior sells them!

[imported_weekendwarrior]

Gus If I were you, I cut deeper scratches with wool and glaze then. You would be surprised what a good glaze can do. When do dealer work like that for low pay. I use to spend my time on the interior and always glaze them! Remember The Shine brings them in but the interior sells them!

LOL...........

[imported_DJ Mayo]

How did I know this thread would become popular...



As stated, I use it when the correction is at a level I am happy with. I just find it funny that after applying this via PC some minor imperfections came back after 5-6 IPA passes. Not all the time, just a few. So in my findings I would say paint cleaners > IPA

[imported_weekendwarrior]

How did I know this thread would become popular...



As stated, I use it when the correction is at a level I am happy with. I just find it funny that after applying this via PC some minor imperfections came back after 5-6 IPA passes. Not all the time, just a few. So in my findings I would say paint cleaners > IPA

How much pressure, speed, and pad type are you using with the EZ Creme / PC?

[imported_DJ Mayo]

How much pressure, speed, and pad type are you using with the EZ Creme / PC?

a little more than the machine pressure, speed 6, and black/gray 5.5 LC Pad.