Polishing My black supra. what a nightmare.

**95supra** · 08-01-2009, 03:51 PM

Had a go at polishing a bit on my 95 supra tonight. Turned in to be a nightmare.

I started off By washing the car with CWG and then clayed the car.

I then messed about abit with polishing pads and compunds. I have alot of pads and quite a few polishing compounds. The paint had alot og swirls and is a bit hazy.

I tried 3 passes of menzerna 106ff on 6,5" orange pad. removed tha hazy`nes, but still lots of swirls. I then stepped it up a bit trying SIP on orange pad for 2 passes. did nothing. stepped it up again to PFW and SIP and made 2 passes. nope nothing changed. still the same swirls. ***. I was the wondering it it just needed to be fine polished down. that I was making the swirls, even though the same swirls were visible after tha passes. But I tried to step it down anyway. 2 passes with 106ff on orange pad and 2 passes with 85rd on white pad. Nothing different at all..

Any advice to what I can try. I have some powergloss that I have never tested, could this be the solution ??? Car has been repainted sometime in its life so its no longer a SS paint, this paint is killing me. it soft to scratch, but scratches are hellish to polish out..

Im lost.. anybody with a good advice.

Im using the flex 3401 DA

Heres a picture off the hood I was working on showin abit of 50\50 after all the passes.. untouched on the left and polished alot of passes on the right.

best picture I could get.. was hard to capture the swirls.

maybe its time to get a rotary

**Phillyz** · 08-01-2009, 04:58 PM

After learning from Barry today, you should

**imported_Detailing Technology** · 08-01-2009, 05:14 PM

I know people here swear by the KB method and the PC.

I still end up using the rotary on 90% of the cars.

**SuperBee364** · 08-01-2009, 05:54 PM

Your car is beautiful. Those rims are a perfect match. I`d trade you straight across for my Charger right now...

Sorry to go off topic, but the Supra has always been a dream car for me. And that color with those wheels... well.. let`s just say "nice car".

Instead of stepping up to something more aggressive than what you`ve tried, try the opposite approach; get some really gentle polish like Menzerna Final Polish II (also known as Micro Polish) and do a couple of applications with a zero bite foam pad. An LC black/grey/red or blue would be good.

The menzerna polishes that you have tried are all great polishes, but they are also all Ceramiclear rated; they work far better on hard clear coats than they do on soft ones. Often on soft paint, you`ll get better results with more gentle polishes, and *much* more gentle pads. Often, I`ll use a zero bite pad for the compounding step on soft paints.

If you don`t get anywhere with the gentle attempts, then I`d agree that it`s time to bring out the M105 and give it a shot.

And be sure to post more pictures as you go.

**SoCalB6** · 08-01-2009, 06:21 PM

First more than anything, is your technique ok? Are you letting the polish do its thing by having slow arm movement, medium pressure and a cutting speed (I am not familiar with the Flex, but on the PC it would be either 5 or 6)? If yes then, it looks like PG is in order, try it with PFW and chase that with 106 and a black or red/blue pad. ...it really sounds like you have hard paint.

**95supra** · 08-02-2009, 02:07 AM

Didn`t tell you guys how I actually polished it. I spread it around 4 and once spread i go full out on 6 on the flex, using just a dab off polish on the pad and buffing until it goes clear again and wipe off. I have been using too much polish on prior attempts, but that just made things hazy. But after I used just a dab results were perfect on other cars so i thought it would be on this one aswell.

**95supra** · 08-02-2009, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by SuperBee364

Your car is beautiful. Those rims are a perfect match. I`d trade you straight across for my Charger right now...

Sorry to go off topic, but the Supra has always been a dream car for me. And that color with those wheels... well.. let`s just say "nice car".

Instead of stepping up to something more aggressive than what you`ve tried, try the opposite approach; get some really gentle polish like Menzerna Final Polish II (also known as Micro Polish) and do a couple of applications with a zero bite foam pad. An LC black/grey/red or blue would be good.

The menzerna polishes that you have tried are all great polishes, but they are also all Ceramiclear rated; they work far better on hard clear coats than they do on soft ones. Often on soft paint, you`ll get better results with more gentle polishes, and *much* more gentle pads. Often, I`ll use a zero bite pad for the compounding step on soft paints.

If you don`t get anywhere with the gentle attempts, then I`d agree that it`s time to bring out the M105 and give it a shot.

And be sure to post more pictures as you go.

No Deal, Supra is my dream car so I wouldnt trade it for an enzo. If I did I would sell it and by more supras.

in fact Im buying another one

The finest polish I have is the 85rd wich says micro polish on it but maybe not fine enough? I have blue and black pads so I will give it a go.

If not I wish I had a bottle of m105 but I only have Powergloss.. maybe give that one a try on PFW if nothing helps.

People talk so much of the m105 that I might aswell order some

thank you for your help.:thx:thx

**reshine** · 08-02-2009, 02:14 AM

Norwegian roads arent cind to carpaint.. :/

**95supra** · 08-02-2009, 03:28 AM

well this one only gets out a few times a year so roads aren`t that bad.

**reshine** · 08-02-2009, 03:35 AM

Hehe, been doing a couple daily drivers lately, and the hoods and front sides are mostly horrible after a "slafsete" winter..

**SoCalB6** · 08-02-2009, 04:04 AM

ahhhh coool it worked out for you

**imported_RZJZA80** · 08-02-2009, 04:52 AM

The black Supra`s have single stage paint so it should be pretty easy to clear out those swirls. I`ve used just a PC at speed 5 and Megs 83 on CCS orange pad and it got everything out. What you are using sounds like a bit of overkill and I can`t imagine why it`s not removing anything at all for you.

**OakesDetail** · 08-02-2009, 05:01 AM

The car has been repainted, and typically an after market coat is extremely soft or hard, it`s looking like the latter. I`ve polished out a black REPAINTED, non factory, Supra and that clear was hard. Intensive polish was doing it but with much effort and only achieved about 80% correction before pumping to PG.

**95supra** · 08-02-2009, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by RZJZA80

The black Supra`s have single stage paint so it should be pretty easy to clear out those swirls. I`ve used just a PC at speed 5 and Megs 83 on CCS orange pad and it got everything out. What you are using sounds like a bit of overkill and I can`t imagine why it`s not removing anything at all for you.

well if you read it all it is a resprayed car so now has clearcoat. If it was stock paint SS it would be a breeze.

**95supra** · 08-02-2009, 05:07 AM

I will try some PFW and PG on the hood again and see what happens.

I will post up some shots and we can discuss from there

The car actually is glossy like no other car I have seen, but under direct sunlight or halogens you can see alot of swirls up close, so was hoping I could get rid of it.

If there was any local detailers with knowledge like som of you guys I would bring it over to them, but they are all rotary happy hack jobbers so Id rather not