PC not tough enough on swirls....

**-Lebowski-** · 06-19-2006, 06:19 PM

If you are limiting yourself to one backing plate and one size pad I feel that you are really limiting what your PC can do. Today I tackled some swirls and light scratches on the bumpers of my wifes car. I was using speed 6 with a orange LC VC pad and some Menzerna Final Polish II and I could not get them to budge. I was going to get the rotary out but then thought, hey, I havent used my 4 inch pads in a while.

With a quick change to a 3.5inch backing plate and a white pad with the same Menzerna FPII (remember kids, least abrasive on up) and hit it at speed 6 and they melted away. Before you say that the PC is not strong enough spend a few $$ and get a 3.5inch backing plates and some cyclo pads and give it a try. You might find that you have a whole new level of defect removal at your finger tips.

:usa

**imported_gusbubba** · 06-19-2006, 07:50 PM

Amen to that......

**Brian_Brice** · 06-19-2006, 08:28 PM

yeah accumulator recomended i try a 3.5 a few months back and i love it, i use them just as often as anything, heres a q though, with the 3.5 and a cycly pad is that basically the equivilent to half a cyclo polisher? never used one.

**-Lebowski-** · 06-20-2006, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by VaSuperShine

yeah accumulator recomended i try a 3.5 a few months back and i love it, i use them just as often as anything, heres a q though, with the 3.5 and a cycly pad is that basically the equivilent to half a cyclo polisher? never used one.

I guess that I cannot speak to that because I do not know what the power is that a cyclo puts out in comparrison to what a PC puts out.

As far as the action that it takes yes I would say its half of a cyclo.

**autobahn** · 06-20-2006, 12:42 PM

I think some underestimate the PC and a determined person

**Accumulator** · 06-20-2006, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by VaSuperShine

with the 3.5 and a cycly pad is that basically the equivilent to half a cyclo polisher? never used one.

Well, I`ve never damaged b/c paint with a Cyclo but I *have* damaged it with a PC/Cyclo green pad. Not saying that the Cyclo wouldn`t have done it too in the same situation, but I was still surprised when it happened and I`ve been doing this stuff for a long, long time.

**Bobby G** · 06-20-2006, 05:01 PM

I use 4" spot pads on my cordless drill to remove deeper scratches, then go over it with a 4" on the DA. It works great.

**-Lebowski-** · 06-20-2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by DavidB

I use 4" spot pads on my cordless drill to remove deeper scratches, then go over it with a 4" on the DA. It works great.

Interesting, where do you get a backing plate that attaches to a drill?

**1 Clean WS6** · 06-20-2006, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by autobahn

I think some underestimate the PC and a determined person

Well said indeed!!!! :tribe:

**imported_GMCloud27** · 06-20-2006, 06:54 PM

Good read and very helpful for everyone! Another reason for me to hand over my wallet to Patrick for some 4" pads...

**autobahn** · 06-21-2006, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by 1 Clean WS6

Well said indeed!!!! :tribe:

Also, I think some are scared to give the PC a little pressure, a little extra pressure on speed 6 on a 4" pad can help the abrasives work in a little better.

**-Lebowski-** · 06-21-2006, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by autobahn

Also, I think some are scared to give the PC a little pressure, a little extra pressure on speed 6 on a 4" pad can help the abrasives work in a little better.

Pressure is a must. I always refer people to this thread: http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/sho...&threadid=2965

**BigAl3** · 06-21-2006, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by autobahn

I think some underestimate the PC and a determined person

agreed! :waxing:

**autobahn** · 06-21-2006, 09:15 PM

I have to pick up some 4" pads soon myself, there`s some areas that I`m really psyched about hitting with one

**erik7** · 06-22-2006, 05:37 AM

I read the thread Lebowski posted, but I also read David`s Autopia guide to detailing and he states NOT to use pressure and let the polish do the work. Obviously, some of you here feel David`s incorrect. So why do you think David would say not to apply pressure? It gets a tad confusing for a newbie like me!!!