Will power needed

[Ronkh]

Not a hijack.

I personally think it`s lunacy that everybody is trying to ban ecigs.

Legalize pot, ban ecigs ?????

[Ronkh]

. Think of how much faster details will go not having to stop for a smoke break every hour!

And not having to remember to hide the cig when taking my detailing selfie

[Setec Astronomy]

Legalize pot, ban ecigs ?????

Yeah, right? It just makes no sense.

[mrclean81]

You also have to consider how angry the big tobacco companies are over this. The little e cigs are ok, but they don`t have a good success rate. When you get into the bigger more powerful mods that operate off of a juice that the user actually likes and picks out, the success rate is high. Big tobacco HATES this, and lobbies vigarously against it. The truth is that there is usually 3 or 4 ingredients in vape juice. VG (vegetable glycerin, PG (propylene glycol), water, and nicotine, + whatever flavoring that particular juice calls for. That`s it..now how many hundreds of chemicals are in a cigarette?

[Ronkh]

You also have to consider how angry the big tobacco companies are over this. The little e cigs are ok, but they don`t have a good success rate. When you get into the bigger more powerful mods that operate off of a juice that the user actually likes and picks out, the success rate is high. Big tobacco HATES this, and lobbies vigarously against it. The truth is that there is usually 3 or 4 ingredients in vape juice. VG (vegetable glycerin, PG (propylene glycol), water, and nicotine, + whatever flavoring that particular juice calls for. That`s it..now how many hundreds of chemicals are in a cigarette?

Big tobacco companies are buying up ecig manufacturers fast right now. They see an emerging market. One of the ceo`s of a big co actually "vapes" and not smokes

[Setec Astronomy]

You also have to consider how angry the big tobacco companies are over this. The little e cigs are ok, but they don`t have a good success rate. When you get into the bigger more powerful mods that operate off of a juice that the user actually likes and picks out, the success rate is high. Big tobacco HATES this, and lobbies vigarously against it. The truth is that there is usually 3 or 4 ingredients in vape juice. VG (vegetable glycerin, PG (propylene glycol), water, and nicotine, + whatever flavoring that particular juice calls for. That`s it..now how many hundreds of chemicals are in a cigarette?

Just the fact that the "smoke" is way cooler and there is no carbon monoxide makes it an instant win to me. You`re right a lot of it is the tobacco lobby...it`s a little bit of a parallel to the coal lobby.

Here`s an interesting question for you vapers--where does the nicotine in e-cigs come from? Is it produced in a lab, or is it extracted from tobacco?

[mrclean81]

That`s a good question. I honestly don`t know the answer to it though. More and more people out in vape land are making their own juice, and buying the nicotine in highly concentrated amounts. I could find out really easily because now I`m curious as well.

[mrclean81]

The vape group on FB says its all natural

[Setec Astronomy]

That`s a good question. I honestly don`t know the answer to it though. More and more people out in vape land are making their own juice, and buying the nicotine in highly concentrated amounts. I could find out really easily because now I`m curious as well.

As Ron was saying, the tobacco companies are buying up the e-cig companies, if the nicotine comes from tobacco, then ultimately the tobacco companies won`t be hurt by e-cigs, and perhaps their lobbying pressure (if they have any left!) will improve the acceptance of e-cigs.

[mnehls86]

Good luck Ron! It has been almost 3-1/2 years for me. Of course I started dabbling in cigars this year.

[mrclean81]

I hope so. They just had a big ordeal with the FDA over it. To my knowledge, there hasn`t been a ruling yet, but it was about the regulation and such. The big companies that sell their crappy juice and mods at every gas station in the country wouldn`t be hurt by it, mostly because they are owned by the big companies. Who it WOULD hurt (or completely shut down) is the small mom n pop juice companies. There is no way a small company could afford the testing and all the be the FDA would make them go through. All that would be left would be a handful of bigger high end companies, and a bunch of gas station juice.

[Ronkh]

Good luck Ron! It has been almost 3-1/2 years for me. Of course I started dabbling in cigars this year.

THanks. Yeah I like cigars too. But hope NO smoke for me in future

[Ronkh]

I hope so. They just had a big ordeal with the FDA over it. To my knowledge, there hasn`t been a ruling yet, but it was about the regulation and such. The big companies that sell their crappy juice and mods at every gas station in the country wouldn`t be hurt by it, mostly because they are owned by the big companies. Who it WOULD hurt (or completely shut down) is the small mom n pop juice companies. There is no way a small company could afford the testing and all the be the FDA would make them go through. All that would be left would be a handful of bigger high end companies, and a bunch of gas station juice.

They were trying to get cigs under fda too. (it may have happened)

[Bunky]

You can do it.

[Ronkh]

You can do it.

Thanks Al