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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    WOW - this is strange to me.

    I`m part time/hobbyist, so i`m still plenty stocked. The few times I went to order online, no issues. The few times I went to a local 3D store, no shortage of anything.

    I drive by car dealerships regularly and they seem full, as if nothing was going on in the world.

    I suspect location? I`m in Southern California. Big cities, not rural areas, where I live and drive around.

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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertnate View Post
    Its funny how the shortages which are killing auto makers actually make their dealerships REALLY happy. Dealers never make much money off cars. It`s the service department, used car sales, and F&I where the profits are hidden. Right now used car prices are insane, service centers are over flowing, and even the F&I guys are happy because the few new cars they do sell are almost always at MSRP (or higher).

    Sorry, Lonnie if this gets too far off topic, but another oddity of this post/intra-pandemic automotive economy is Ford starting to look at shifting priories from massive inventories on lots to more of a by-order process. Car dealerships in Europe do this now. They stock a few examples for test drives and tire-kickers, but if you want to buy a car, most of the time you order it and wait the 6~8 weeks for it to arrive equipped just like you wanted.
    FI makes more money by financing more deals.... not so much amount of cars. Used and new car are insane but dealers have to do it. People complain but they gotta stay in business too. New cars Usually make money by volume not profit.

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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    Quote Originally Posted by JustJesus View Post
    WOW - this is strange to me.

    I`m part time/hobbyist, so i`m still plenty stocked. The few times I went to order online, no issues. The few times I went to a local 3D store, no shortage of anything.

    I drive by car dealerships regularly and they seem full, as if nothing was going on in the world.

    I suspect location? I`m in Southern California. Big cities, not rural areas, where I live and drive around.
    Seattle a big area and dealerships are empty.


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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    Quote Originally Posted by Coatings=crack View Post
    Seattle a big area and dealerships are empty.


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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    Quote Originally Posted by Coatings=crack View Post
    Seattle a big area and dealerships are empty.


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    Dealerships across several large metropolitan areas in several states in our region are all empty. Kansas City and St. Louis I know for sure. Anecdotal stories only for other areas. I was in Chicago briefly this weekend, but didn`t pass any dealerships.

    Interesting thing it isn`t just one brand either. They all have nearly empty lots. The Big 3 look like they are suffering more, but I think that is simply because they always had MASSIVE amounts of inventory on hand compared to anyone else on gigantic lots though I don`t think they actually moved vehicles any faster than other brands which simply keep less inventory on smaller lots.
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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    I have to add to this thread about forum member Older FINALLY getting his Valu-Guard ABC decontaminate order that he placed in March of this year, 2021. THAT`S a long time to wait for a detailing product!
    Reference thread: Valugard A-B-C Now in Stock

    Speaking of car dealers, does anyone know if there are used car lots near you that have gone out business OR if you know of car sales personnel who have been laid off or have their hours reduced or moved to commission-only salary for their paycheck, all due to the new and used car shortages??
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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    I`m of the mind that if you`ll need something and it`s in stock, you may as well get it now.

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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    This summer I’ve been traveling to Detroit one a month from MN. Dealerships I pass have a lot more asphalt then cars. Their front rows in many locations, consist of double spaced used cars.

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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    My brother in law’s brother manages a very large Lexus dealership. His sales have been up over 250%. And because there’s trouble sourcing CPU’s for new cars, the used car market’s on fire. Even the wholesale stuff is moving. Having trouble keeping cars on the lot.

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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    Havent seen any of these "price increases" yet. He said a few months and its been 3. Maybe in the next 2 they will shoot up? lol
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    Re: The New Economy: Detailing Product & Equipment Shortages

    Well I am bumping my own started thread because I found out that the gallon of Meg`s Detailer D143 Non-Acid wheel and Tire cleaner is STILL on back-order from the Autopia Store after placing my order of detailing products and equipment items. (Yes, I am trying to do my part in keeping this forum going by buying products from the Autopia Store; AKA, Palm Beach Motoring Group) Did not say so on the website, but was informed by email. NOT happy but it`s not the Autopia Store`s fault.

    I do have a "beef" with Meguairs, though. Their D-RTU14332, 32 ounce Detailer Ready-to- Use (RTU) Wheel and Tire Cleaner IS available, but it is not a cost-effective way for me to buy and use that SAME product as the D143 gallon concentrate is. My beef (AKA, Captain Obvious conspiracy theory) is that they are diverting this "perhaps shortage" of a product to the RTU packaging because there is a better profit margin on it. Makes good economic business sense. It also underscores what is happening in this current economic market and inflated prices of seemingly all things. Are many businesses doing this? Don`t really know, but it is an example of some of the free market, supply-and-demand principles that manufacturers and companies use in a "supply chain crisis" as we are experiencing now. There is little incentive for Meg`s to change this current business practice and long as they are making a profit by doing so.
    Another good example is vehicle manufacturing. WHY do you think The Big Three (General Motors, Ford, and Fiat-Chrysler Auto) make more truck and Full-sized SUVs and have abandoned the sedan market? There is more of a profit margin on higher-priced trucks and SUVs. AND when micro-chips are in short supply, where should that item be "de-directed" for vehicle production? NOT to sedans or smaller SUVs (AKA, less-expensive with a lower profit-margin). Again, it makes good economic business sense.

    This whole business "game" is not good for the consumer, but the reality is there is little the average consumer can do about it, other than not buying the product at its high-price OR wait for prices to come down as the supply chain issues "work themselves out". That said, the principals of pricing that SHOULD be at work in a free-market, supply-and-demand economy have changed. Unless you are a highly-educated economist combined with some physic future foreseeing abilities, there is no telling where and how this "supply change crisis" and whole economy will turn out.
    MY biggest fear is that the government will step in and begin controlling and telling through legislation companies what to produce and how much to charge for them. That is democratic socialism in a nut-shell. It`s already happening in the pharmaceutical and medical business world. When the government and its elected officials want to lower pharmaceutical (AKA, prescription drugs) and medical cost through such legislation on these business for the good of the consumer, it undermines the free-market supply-and-demand principles of our current economy as it exists today. It sounds plausible and good for consumers. UNTIL you realize the Pandoa`s Box it opens that it may be YOUR business or company that the government will be the next to be "regulated". It`s a fine line between self-governed moral and ethical economic business operating practices and when the government of-the-people,by-the-people, and for-the-people steps in to regulate and control what are the moral and ethical operating, pricing, and profit practices of free market companies.
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