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    Re: 2018 Health and Fitness Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RaysWay View Post
    Thanks for the advice fellas. I went with a thermogenic preworkout for now. I`ll probably switch to one that has creatine down the road. I`ve always liked that stuff.
    Does the Thermogenic make warming up go better?

    What do you like for Creatine when you`re taking it? Are you not taking it all the time? (I`ve only cycled off it once in the last ~25years, and that didn`t last long as it *killed* my performance on Cardio.)

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    Grrrr.....200.4 this morning. So darn close hehe

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    House of Wax- Don`t want to just figure it`s a half-pound of new muscle?

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    That`d be wishful thinking hehe. I`m just really looking forward to that number starting with a 1 haha. Making progress. I`ve got a week vacation coming up at the end of June and I`ve set a goal to be at about 192 (which at the time i set the goal had me losing about 1.5 lbs/week). On track so far

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    .I`ve got a week vacation coming up at the end of June and I`ve set a goal to be at about 192 (which at the time i set the goal had me losing about 1.5 lbs/week). On track so far..
    OK, that`s enough of a timeframe that it might not be too stressful. And yeah...I do get it about wanting the number to start with a "1"!

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    Does the Thermogenic make warming up go better?
    I tried it for the first time yesterday and loved it. I did 20 minutes on the elliptical as a warm up and felt great. I remember thinking "I`m sweating a lot....oh yeah I took C4". Then as soon as I got off the machine I felt laser focused. The thermogenic is supposed to help with fat loss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator View Post
    What do you like for Creatine when you`re taking it? Are you not taking it all the time? (I`ve only cycled off it once in the last ~25years, and that didn`t last long as it *killed* my performance on Cardio.)
    This is my first time in the gym in over 5 years so I`ll need to do research when I`m ready for it. I`ve dieted and worked out in different way but this time I`m ready to be a gym rat again. I think it was just monohydrate I tried in the past.

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    RaysWAy- Sounds like the Thermogenic is working for you, that`s gotta be a boost as you get back into this stuff.

    With the Creatine, I quit taking the Drink Mixes (the ones with flavors/sugar/etc. in `em) and switched to the plain Creatine Monohydrate (Optimum Nutrition brand) that we give the dogs. It`s supposedly "micronized" but you can`t prove it by how it is in suspension (gritty stuff..). Still, mixing it with a little grapejuice works just as well for me as the Drinks, which had *MUCH* more sugar and cost many times as much.

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    Im going to try creatine nitrate once im out of the creatine i have. Developed and ptented by Thermolife, who usd to make great products but is now in the business of sourcing and patenting ingredients.
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    Accumulator-

    It`s interesting how anti cardio Mentzer and his disciple Marcus Reinhart are. I`d forgotten about Marcus. Guess he`s still at it, was on his website last night. I mean to tell you he is MILITANTLY anti cardio. As in don`t do any. Sure, many probably over do it for fat loss and such, but to advocate never doing any? Seems extreme to me.
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    I`ve gone to the gym 5 days out of 7 this week

    It was rough and getting all the rust off is annoying but I`m excited to break thru that point. Today will be a rest day....my body needs it.
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    jrock645- Heh heh, anybody who dismisses Cardio loses some credibility with me. I mean..don`t all those studies, showing the same thing each time, matter?!? And my personal experiences with it are impossible to ignore.

    A few weeks without cardio impacts my cardiovascular fitness. Obviously, easily quantified. So that`s bad. End of story IMO. Why allow physical downgrading if it`s avoidable?

    Yeah, people sure do idolize some of those guys. Sigh...[certain comments deleted]. Mentzer got a lot of mileage out of some maybe-almost-correct verbiage (that some mistook for "genius") and/but for a student of Rand his writings are chock full of Logical Fallacies. Eh, I still learned TONS from reading his stuff and consider his input to the topic invaluable.

    ..As I keep saying, somebody says something interesting, research it. These days there aren`t too many genuine mysteries about this stuff, SO much as been figured out over the last few decades.

    I`ll be interested to hear if the Creatine Nitrate gives you anything that the Monohydrate didn`t.

    RaysWay- Gee, I *BET* you`re ready for an off day! Heh heh, five in a row is like two weeks` worth of exercise for me. Are you doing different stuff each time?

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    RaysWay- Gee, I *BET* you`re ready for an off day! Heh heh, five in a row is like two weeks` worth of exercise for me. Are you doing different stuff each time?
    I did back or "pull" workouts yesterday and after dead lifts I felt like I was running on fumes lol. So yes I`m happy today is rest day.

    This first week I just wanted to hit every body part to get the rust off. Back was yesterday, legs the day before, etc etc. I`ll do 20-30 minutes of cardio to warm up first.

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    I did back or "pull" workouts yesterday and after dead lifts I felt like I was running on fumes lol. So yes I`m happy today is rest day.

    This first week I just wanted to hit every body part to get the rust off. Back was yesterday, legs the day before, etc etc. I`ll do 20-30 minutes of cardio to warm up first.
    Be careful not to overdo it on deadlifts. Really easy to burn out on those
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    Easy to have all sorts of unintended consequences from Deadlifts! A guy we know (my age) just can`t stop himself from doing `em and he messes himself up every time (eventually).

    I only do semi-stiff/Romanian style Deads, and only as an occasional/alternate hamstring exercise. I get the same effects by doing *incredibly light* Good Mornings, and I mean with baby-weights on the bar compared to a lot of guys. One set and my hams are SORE for days...that stretch works wonders even with minimal resistance.

    Sure not knocking Deads! Just not something I do, in part because I question my form and see no need for them *in my case*. Not about to learn a complex and tricky movement at my age, though I wish I *had* maybe 30 years ago.

    RaysWay- I do get the idea of whole-body for getting back into it, but !oh man! doing Legs and Back so close together is something!

    Glad to hear you do the warming up. I somehow do fine with just a couple very light sets of whatever my first movement is, but IMO most people oughta do infinitely more than I do.

    Heh heh, this is one of those "Do as I say, not..." posts

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    Hey, can we have a concensus on Chin Ups vs. Pull Ups?!? I`ve read conflicting versions of which is which since forever and generally just say "chins" and then specify what hand position I`m talking about- "Chins with a Pronated/Supinated/Neutral Grip".

    I`ll try to go along with whatever we come up with, but have always thought that Chins = Palms Down and Pullups = Palms Up.

    I do ~90% of mine with Down/Pronated and the others with a Neutral/parallel grip (sometimes with a pair of IronMind Rolling Thunders). I simply don`t do Up/Supinated even though there are some real pluses to that; they hurt me from my wrists to my shoulders, so No Thanks.

    So which will we say is which- Chins = Palms Up or Palms Down? Pullups = ?what?

    Chins with added weight (both plates and elastic bands) are *always* my first Back movement. I alternate between Body Perpendicular to floor vs. angled back at ~45°, usually one set of each,but sometimes just one or the other. Today is Back Day as soon as I log off here

 

 
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