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[Angus]

Yet when she called law enforcements failures out, all of a sudden the only person to blame was the shooter

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No actually what happened was the sheriff told the NRA hack she was wrong:

"You`re absolutely not the litmus test for how law enforcement should follow up. You`re wrong. There weren`t 39 visits. Some of them, they were GOA. Some of them called from other states, so say there were 39 visits I don`t know where you go those facts, but you`re completely wrong... It`s incorrect. We are looking at every single case we got. We are following up on it. We will decide and discern what deputies did, what investigators did and we will - - I will handle it accordingly and people will be punished if they didn`t do what they were supposed to do..."

[House of Wax]

Ahh, the 39 visits reported by CNN was more b.s. by CNN then. Got it

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[House of Wax]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/21/u...mpression=true

Ole boy might wanna be careful throwing stones..... although this is from CNN, so it might be more b.s.

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[Ronkh]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/21/u...mpression=true

Ole boy might wanna be careful throwing stones..... although this is from CNN, so it might be more b.s.

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Just more proof that he should have been pinched before this happened.

[Ronkh]

No actually what happened was the sheriff told the NRA hack she was wrong:

"You`re absolutely not the litmus test for how law enforcement should follow up. You`re wrong. There weren`t 39 visits. Some of them, they were GOA. Some of them called from other states, so say there were 39 visits I don`t know where you go those facts, but you`re completely wrong... It`s incorrect. We are looking at every single case we got. We are following up on it. We will decide and discern what deputies did, what investigators did and we will - - I will handle it accordingly and people will be punished if they didn`t do what they were supposed to do..."

If what he said there is true.......... He got bitten in the butt by his own greed. Using any "contact" as a "case number". Tons of departments now do this to increase stats.

If he were to handle it correctly, he would resign since he is the boss, buck stops w him.

[Ronkh]

Perhaps a law enforcement interview in order to buy a semi-auto weapon would have prevented this shooter from having a gun. Again, this is something I presume you have already done and Gearhead has stated he has also, so you two already "pass".

From the sounds of it he did have quite a few interviews w/law enforcement........... 39 of em, but the # is up for debate.

[Ronkh]

[Stokdgs]

Since you say "this is one of the sacrifices we all made when we joined the Military" I take it you are a vet...which makes it even more puzzling that you don`t seem to remember how the Reserves/Guard work, and that these people are not sitting around during the week with nothing to do, on the gov`t dole, where we could simply "reassign" them to protect schools. They are not Maytag repairmen or suburban firemen. And the people that I know who joined the National Guard, never expected to be called to active duty, except maybe for a few days or a week, in the case, say, of a natural disaster.

And I don`t think we really want to get into a discussion on the effectiveness of the National Guard troops that were stationed in airports after 9/11, and whether they stopped any airports (or aircraft, for that matter) from being "blown up". But I`ll grant you I feel a lot safer flying now that none of the old ladies have knitting needles...some of them are very nasty!

Setec Astronomy ---

I said this --

Setec Astronomy --
""Yes, I did realize that they are the Guard - I just did not know what they are doing lately...""

Why would that be puzzling ?? What about the AGR part of the Guard ?

So if your Guard friends are not apparently happy to deploy and serve the State in the Country or in another country they signed up to do, then why would they sign up in the first place?

I just don`t get that part.. I am of the persuasion that one is "all in" or not - there is no - "well, I think I will be there for you, perhaps not if it doesn`t fit my schedule"..

Yes I am a Vet, and come from a long line of way harder, tougher, stronger men who parachuted into Normandy, landed on Omaha Beach, and fought in the Philippines, Leyte, Bataan.. Have you ever seen Band of Brothers ? Yes, those types of men in similar situations..

And the Reserve I was in for 2 years after I was Honorably Discharged in 1971, was Active Reserve, attached to the USAF and subject to be called back at any time.. Yeah, guess I was like the Fireman or Maytag Repairman..

Regarding the "effectiveness of National Guard in Airports after 09/11", how does anyone know for certain how many acts of terrorism were indeed prevented because of these men standing there ?
Dan F

[LashingStanley]

I like to imagine that Ron has these two bumper stickers on his truck along with a pair of truck nuts.

[GearHead_1]

So... just spit balling here, if more in-depth background checks are the solution to the problem. Who pays for them? Where does the money come from? The costs from what I see being proposed, if applied to every lawful purchase would be huge.

[Stokdgs]

So... just spit balling here, if more in-depth background checks are the solution to the problem. Who pays for them? Where does the money come from? The costs from what I see being proposed if applied to every lawful purchase would be huge.

Great questions..

Then the rest of the project that has to absolutely happen --- Someone PLEASE, put all these DataBases into 1 - One - Uno - Central Database so Everyone has access and sees all the input into each individual as needed, the first time...

Yes, there may have to be more people there to actually read them and pass on the parts to those people out in the Field, in the Car, on the Ground, that are needful for their job at that minute, no later, no excuses...

We have all this technology available, text, etc., and we are not using it effectively apparently...

Well, except on TV where they seem to use it very effectively for law enforcement needs.. (Criminal Minds, NCIS)

And look at all the jobs we may be able to create to help this out..
Dan F

[Ronkh]

I like to imagine that Ron has these two bumper stickers on his truck along with a pair of truck nuts.

Wrong. Care to try again ??

[Ronkh]

I like to imagine that Ron has these two bumper stickers on his truck along with a pair of truck nuts.

But I ws thinking about getting one that said

"Lock her up"...

[GearHead_1]

Wrong. Care to try again ??

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[Ronkh]

Wrong. Care to try again ??

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nice x