The Unofficial *Official* Politics Thread

[JBM]

Without all the bs...

What is an "assault rifle" ???

Seriously. Please don`t post the 100 pages that Sen Nelson added for a definition.

the dumb fake news thinks AR means assault rifles...

if you look close, when the cops have an AR it’s a high powered rifle, when a citizen has an AR it’s an assault rifle.... yawn

[LashingStanley]

When I was a kid guns were on the gun racks in trucks, and in vehicles unlocked.

No school was shot up

Not until the ADD people came around pushing their pills.

This isn’t a gun issue, and seeing how the FISA warrant was issued, we need more guns.

This is what happens when no one tells you Alex Jones` Infowars is satire.

[JBM]

This is what happens when no one tells you Alex Jones` Infowars is satire.

Every single incident has had someone on some “brain pill” it’s not a coincidence and frankly anyone who dismiss it doesn’t want to face the issue head on.

[LashingStanley]

Remember this...

I always listen, and always use tons of news sources. I got plenty of time to make up my own mind.

voter records suggest 19-year-old Nicolas Cruz was a Democratic voter.

That was your first contribution to this thread after the Parkland Florida school shooting.

And at least we "cons" didn`t have to resort to name calling.........

First of all, after re-reading a few of ArtM3 posts I feel like I just woke up out of a coma and a liberal conspiracy theorist has to fill me in on what has happened the past two years without being able to use full sentences.

That said...

Ronkh...Rather than name calling, you spend your time finding unverified & politically charged fake news stories that confirm your biases and prejudices. Truth is, you`d much rather have a debate on the shooters political affiliation than a meaningful policy discussion about gun control.

[artm3]

Gotta be lonely on that pedestal.

And at least we "cons" didn`t have to resort to name calling.........

lol
you do all the time

how about gump raping, beating and pulling tuffs of his first wifes hair out
he blamed her for a painful scalp reduction procedure because she recommended her doctor
sworn and corroborated in the divorce filing

you guys have sold your soul and sold out my country

I like buffets quote about dumps buisiness acumen
a monkey tossing darts at the stock pages could do better
lol

sump hires morons, he wants to be the smartest

5 draft dodges
5 bankruptcies
3 marriages all involving adultary


mueller
graduated college eligible for a deferment
joined the Marines: infantry officer, Ranger, Airborne
volunteered for vn, worst time ~`68
wounded, could have come home
instead returned after a long hospital stay
sent to law school
same wife 40 years
fighting crime his entire career
respected by dems and repugs alike (except for the lunatic fringe or those criminals he made his mission)


trump is out of his league
he did not collude ( a federal financial crime)
he collaborated

[GearHead_1]

Sadly having read the last post it appears that it is believed that what happened in Florida is Trump’s fault. I’m no fan of his. That said, he may have inherited the problem and it remains to be seen, what if anything he’ll do about it but he did not cause this problem anymore than you the posters or any other poster in this thread. Adding his list of issues or any other president’s for this matter won’t fix what is going on in this nation with respect to shootings.

@artm3, you take a very wide sweep when you say “you guys have sold your souls and my country”. Which guys? Do you really know the people of whom you write beyond a few posts on a forum? There is no sense making an assumption that broad and don’t make this thread personal. You don’t need to like what someone else says and you certainly don’t need to agree with it but keep the discussion civil. -GH

[artm3]

Bwahahahahahahahah:

Guess I`m guilty too, but at lease 100% American, but I do have a Russian dog.

"Tweets and Facebook posts that have been made public as part of these investigations make clear that the Russian disinformation effort broadly sought to favor Trump and undermine the support for Clinton"

And made NO difference in the election.

Seriously?!?!?!?!? Guess you didn`t want to exercise that smartness with this article..

you may be a citizen but do not sound like an American

who can say if it made a difference?
the russians obviously thought it would, and they are experts at it
why do it then?

get some nazi racist off his but to vote
same for muslim or immigrant haters
20% of the country believes the Holocaust is a lie
9/11 was an inside job
moon landing was hoax
etc
you underestimate the stupidity and fickleness of some people

he only got 45% of the vote
and won the targeted states by a few points
over 20% of the population has an iq < 80
easily swayed sheep
if only 10% were swayed that is a 4% swing
higher than the margin

and that assumes only the morons took the bait
met alot of `smart` who fell for the spell

claims of epstein and trump molesting children
epstein did 2 yrs in a fed pen

from all the stuff out there not hard to believe rump is a perv

"spank me with a fortune magazine with me on the cover!"
lol

[artm3]

did the russian campaign have an effect?

Pompeo made a similar remark last October, saying at a conference in Washington, "The intelligence community`s assessment is that the Russian meddling that took place did not affect the outcome of the election."The CIA later issued a statement appearing to walk back his remarks.
"The intelligence assessment with regard to Russian election meddling has not changed," an agency spokesman told The Washington Post at the time, adding, "the director did not intend to suggest that it had."The U.S. intelligence community has not reached a conclusion on whether Russian meddling actually had any bearing on the election`s outcome."We did not make an assessment of the impact that Russia activities had on the outcome of the 2016 election," an unclassified assessment released last January states. "The US Intelligence Community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze US political processes or US public opinion."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...sian-meddling/
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

[GearHead_1]

I wason the shooting tem for 3 schools. Elem on up.

Still can’t hit a bull in the butt with a handful of wheat?

[artm3]

if people were not prone to `suggestion` there would be no
commercials
advertisements
home shopping channel
product placement
fox news, msnbs, cnn, etc

it drives people to smoke/drink themselfs to death
spend into bankruptcy

you present the right suggestion in the right format to the right susceptable person you WILL get measureable results

how much spent on ads?
what does a superbowl ad cost?
do sales spike?

you feed a confused persons dark side you will get results
remember hitler, stalin, mao, pol pot???
propaganda got people on board with their madness

[artm3]

the fact that the russians align with repugs ought to be disturbing
a country run by crime bosses and by a murderer
doing the biding of the repugs attacking dems
repugs = russians?
nra using russian money to endorse trump?


The internet was flooded with rumors and hoaxes in the aftermath of the Parkland, Florida shooting as internet trolls and Russian bots started to push out a false narrative about the suspect’s identity. They fallaciously claimed that he was a member of Antifa, that he was a “Dreamer,” that he had affiliations with ISIS, and, as mentioned, that he was a registered Democrat:

https://www.snopes.com/was-florida-s...oter-democrat/

[House of Wax]

Get a grip dude

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[grisby]

Get a grip dude

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I like this one better

Now that I am an older adult, I think I will go to bed.

[GearHead_1]

I own firearms, and have done so since I was a child. Bought my first .22 LR, with the help of a wise father at eleven years of age, it was a Sears Ted Williams pump action. I was taught from a very early age how to safely handle and discharge a gun. I see the term gun control thrown around frequently. I recoil every time I hear it because I’m not really sure I know what it is people are thinking. Gun Control means so many things to so many different people, there are extremes on both ends of what gun control means to various groups.

I’m all for background checks and have been through many. The government has anything that they could possibly want regarding my personal information. The FBI has performed intensive background checks on me, my fingerprints are on file. They have personal letters stating my purpose for ownership signed with a local Police Chiefs approval, meaning there was a personal interview with these law enforcement officials. They have my name, my address, my social security number, my passport number. They know how much I make, how much I pay in taxes. They know my parents names, my children’s names, my spouse. They know which firearms I own. Some of these firearms took between 3 and 6 months to obtain permission to own, I’m patient. I don’t take these things to be a burden it’s all part of lawful ownership. I’ve taken the appropriate courses and tests to qualify for a CCP. I’ve qualified at high levels shooting IDPA. Seriously, I don’t know what more info I could give them.

I’ve seen comments on the forum regarding not being able to trust other gun owners. I know the people with which I have shooting connections. I trust them, I trust them implicitly, many of these people are not Ex-Vets, I still trust them and they trust me. Though forum members don’t know me I’ll bet should we have had the opportunity, they too would trust me, perhaps even like me. I own firearms of which the anti-gun crowd would not approve. These firearms are of no concern or consequence to anyone and would never be used to harm anyone or anything beyond a standard paper target. They were all acquired legally. They are properly stored and my family has been trained on how to handle firearms.

I AM NOT THE PROBLEM, my guns are not the problem and when it comes to gun ownership there are tens of millions of people just like me. Don’t give me this garbage about assault weapons and which guns I can own. Any weapon and I mean any weapon, (think screwdriver) used to assault someone is an assault weapon. I’ve stated my opinion before, I don’t believe we need more regulation when it comes to gun ownership. The mentality that puts more restrictions on me frustrates me a great deal. A gun is a tool end of story. It allows me to punch holes in targets several hundred yards away. I like shooting them, I like collecting them, I like cleaning them, I like reloading ammunition for them. Just like we like detailing cars, it’s a hobby. We have enough regulation and had enough laws on the books to likely have stopped this most recent shooting had we enforced these laws. Don’t tell me that gun’s are the cause of the crisis we have in the country right now, I simply don’t believe it.

[Ronkh]

you may be a citizen but do not sound like an American

who can say if it made a difference?
the russians obviously thought it would, and they are experts at it
why do it then?

get some nazi racist off his but to vote
same for muslim or immigrant haters
20% of the country believes the Holocaust is a lie
9/11 was an inside job
moon landing was hoax
etc
you underestimate the stupidity and fickleness of some people

he only got 45% of the vote
and won the targeted states by a few points
over 20% of the population has an iq < 80
easily swayed sheep
if only 10% were swayed that is a 4% swing
higher than the margin

and that assumes only the morons took the bait
met alot of `smart` who fell for the spell

claims of epstein and trump molesting children
epstein did 2 yrs in a fed pen

from all the stuff out there not hard to believe rump is a perv

"spank me with a fortune magazine with me on the cover!"
lol

Wow!