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    Re: The Unofficial *Official* Politics Thread

    There has always been some that have opposed another group....this country was settled by some escaping intolerance and then do the same thing here. We had a fairly open door immigration policy until the mid-1920s.

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    Paul Ryan said it best "Its easy to be against things". The GOP has been against everything for so long they really haven`t a clue what they are for. Trumpcare failed. I didn`t want to see the Republican`s version of healthcare pass because it was a bad bill and punished the poor/elderly, but I want to see an improved version of the AHA. Obama gave the GOP many chances to sit at the table and create a bi-partisan healthcare bill but they refused on the grounds that Obama was Democrat and their job was to make him (or any Democrat) look bad, when in fact their job is to govern for all Americans. If politicians were not in the back pocket of every lobbyist and they weren`t afraid of not being reelected something good might come out of Washington. With the Republicans now in charge it is politics as usual, but worse!
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    Re: The Unofficial *Official* Politics Thread


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    I have no idea why they tried to force this healthcare thing through so quickly. It clearly needed a lot more time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlmccarty2000 View Post
    Obama gave the GOP many chances to sit at the table and create a bi-partisan healthcare bill but they refused on the grounds that Obama was Democrat and their job was to make him (or any Democrat) look bad,
    You had a point till this ^^^^

    Do you not remember the o care was drafted in locked rooms, with NO input from anyone but their own advisors?
    It was drafted based on lies and deceptions.......

    The republicans tried to repeal it numerous times over the years, but had no viable plan to make it work. That should be the underlying fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronkh View Post
    The republicans have no viable plan. That`s the underlying fact.
    ^^^ Fixed it for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post
    ^^^ Fixed it for you
    Unfortunately true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronkh View Post
    Do you not remember the o care was drafted in locked rooms, with NO input from anyone but their own advisors?
    However, this was after many ovations to the Republicans to sit down and discuss a Healthcare bill, but there was no interest on their part. At this point the Dems went into the locked rooms to stop leaks before the bill was finalized.
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    Trump has said he`ll just wait until the ACA explodes and then work on solving the problem. While even the CBO has said things will settle down and even out so it may never explode. Apparently he doesn`t care about the millions of Americans who will be impacted and suffer if the ACA does explode. If Trump and Ryan were true LEADERS they could put together a special independent Healthcare commission composed of Republicans, Democrats, Doctors, Hospitals, Insurance Companies and most importantly patient advocacy groups and hammer out a solution even if it takes a year. Then live by their findings--either keep the ACA with improvements or provide a better solution.

    Keep in mind that if we end up with 24 million uninsured you still pay for their Healthcare because they will go to the ER, be treated and never pay the bill because they can`t afford it and those charges will eventually be paid for by all of us with increased charges.

    Interesting tidbit regarding the recently failed AHCA-- by now we should all know that it included big tax cuts for the wealthy. The payout to the top 400 families alone was estimated to exceed total ACA subsidies in 20 states and the District of Columbia. How`s that for looking out for the average American????
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    The blame game has been going on for way too long. It`s past time for our government to figure out a direction and get going. Inaction is a sign of weakness that both our friends and enemies pick up on. It`s kind of like the joke about how to eat an elephant...one bite at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post
    ^^^ Fixed it for you
    Rand Paul has one he has been waving around for quite a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwaug View Post
    However, this was after many ovations to the Republicans to sit down and discuss a Healthcare bill, but there was no interest on their part. At this point the Dems went into the locked rooms to stop leaks before the bill was finalized.
    There were NO "ovations" to the repubs at all

    Please remember Pelosi say that she had a super majority, they could do whatever they wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlmccarty2000 View Post
    The blame game has been going on for way too long. It`s past time for our government to figure out a direction and get going. Inaction is a sign of weakness that both our friends and enemies pick up on. It`s kind of like the joke about how to eat an elephant...one bite at a time.
    While I partially agree, the way our government was set up to support "inaction" so that change happens really slowly. Too bad corruption happens quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronkh View Post
    There were NO "ovations" to the repubs at all

    Please remember Pelosi say that she had a super majority, they could do whatever they wanted.
    What do you think caused her to make this statement? They had been trying to get the Republicans to come to the table regarding Healthcare with no success. Don`t forget before Obama was even sworn in the Republicans vowed to do everything they could to make him fail rather than do anything to help the country out of the financial mess we were in at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pwaug View Post
    What do you think caused her to make this statement? They had been trying to get the Republicans to come to the table regarding Healthcare with no success. Don`t forget before Obama was even sworn in the Republicans vowed to do everything they could to make him fail rather than do anything to help the country out of the financial mess we were in at the time.
    Ummmmm not really. Pelosi couldn`t help but trumpet that. Remember, they had that majority.
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