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I agree with you.. Inventors, visionaries, pioneers, and entrepreneurs started many of the big corporations and someone else (i.e... a bean counter) ends up running them later. This is sad but it is real.
I experienced it firsthand. I used to work for a company that went from being privately held to publicly traded. The founder was well respected by all. Stories of how he personally help his employees were abound. He once flipped a hospital bill for an employee when he found out he couldn`t afford it. The founder was a hippie from the 70s and community activism was always a priority. All that changed....once the company went public. A few years back, the board of directors removed him as the CEO and installed a wall-street type. Can you imagine being fired from a company that you created/started....
Once the "Bean counters" takes over...everything boils down to (seems to IMO) $$$.
The majority of the jobs are not created in the USA. Manufacturing in another country may not be by itself wrong but the huge exodus of jobs as corporate profits have soared (all the trickle down working somewhere else) has left us with a workforce, many without needed skills, without decent paying jobs.
We do need entitlement reform but the benefits of the improving economy have not reach all yet to reduce the impact on social programs (welfare, food stamps).
Al
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Thanks for taking care of the light work Steve......
Partially correct, mostly wrong....
Explannation = CEO`s have a fiduciary responsibility to their stock holders. Therefore, if they didn`t do all they could to be more profitable, they could be fired, sued and worse.
But I do agree that most mba`s aint worth the paper their diploma is written on. There was once a story about a business ethics class for mba`s. Think it was held on April Fools day.
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This country manufactured "stuff" before all these entitlements started. If half the people in this country weren`t receiving some type of "entitlement" (love that term), there would be more competition for jobs - and costs of labor would probably go down. In fact, you could probably actually make something in this country.
The problem IMHO isn`t an economic one - it`s a mentality problem. There are huge clumps of cities in America where nobody works. There are government programs for medical care, food, and housing. The government is there to see nobody goes without. Well, maybe if people are in fear of "going without" they would get a damn job.
IMHO the only way to fix it is to cut them off. The labor force would increase, new workers would have earned dollars to spend and pay more taxes - and the economy would be stimulated. New jobs would be created.
How did this all work 100 years ago before all these BS entitlement programs??? Those who worked ate - those that didn`t - didn`t. It was pretty simple. America manufactured all types of goods. Now we make nothing and a large portion of our population sits at home each day waiting for a government check.
Thanks, Ron. Another one of those guys who have tons of complaints, but not a single REALISTIC solution. just mad at the world. nobody could ever do right enough for these people.
With all due respect, you are too young to know what you are talking about. And the whole "47%" is such a specious argument, you know that includes people who are retired (or not retired) and collecting social security, right? Are you going to begrudge your parents (and Ron) their social security? Or aren`t your parents old enough to collect social security? I guess if they are they are just "takers", right?
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Setec has been living on Planet Earth. Ron is still in fantasy land. good luck, Ron. its a cruel world, understand it and change, or you`ll get left behind. I didn`t make the rules, I just get them.
Does anybody know what the percentage is when you factor out social security and medicare? Those people, including me, should not be included as we earned those "entitlements" as we paid into the system for many years.
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Exactly--I was looking that up, it`s very easy to find: Monthly Statistical Snapshot, April 2015
So, just taking the over 65 retirees, that`s ~13% of the population--Population Clock
That doesn`t include the people that are on Social Security Disability--since they are "takers"
The thing that I can`t find is how many of those 47% "takers" are on military pensions or on military disability--because those guys that got their legs blown off in Iraq and are collecting government disability--they`re the worst takers there are, right? And those career military guys--30 years and they`re collecting a pension??? Takers! And what about those retired FBI and federal marshals and DEA--where is Fox News exposing these takers! And the retired CIA--that`s not like a real job, is it? I think they can sit around doing nothing, because it`s all "classified", that`s just a ruse so I can`t tell where my tax dollars are going! Oh, and what about those mailmen? Sure, they privatized the post office--but what about before then? All those mailmen sitting around collecting government pensions and just to add insult to injury, some poor sap has to deliver mail to them--but he`ll never get a government pension!
You guys convinced me--everything would be fine if it wasn`t for all those takers who never gave ANYTHING to this country--that are all on the government dole...
EDIT: And while I`m on a roll, Swanic, you work in a pharmacy--did it ever occur to you that the people you interact with are disproportionately on "government assistance" because they are old (retired) and disabled? I`d be willing to bet the percentage of pharmacy customers that are on government assistance is a lot higher than the general population--because people who are on Medicare or disability are a lot more likely to need medication than the general population.
This is great. I`m too young to know what I`m talking about??? Start talking about cutting entitlements and making people work to earn money and right away we`re starving senior citizens. Seriously? You have to know that`s not where I`m implying the abuses lie.
Lolz. Too rich. Most people on "government assistance" I deal with aren`t disabled or "old". By "government assistance" I`m talking about Medicaid - not Medicare. I`m not implying or stating retired Medicare recipients should be cut. In fact, IMHO, I think Medicare benefits should be increased. I deal with people who have worked their whole lives, retired, only to have to spend 50%+ of their monthly income on medication - that`s AFTER Medicare.
I don`t think ANYONE wants senior starving or going without medical care. On the other hand, there is a massive amount of our population out there who are young healthy eaters who choose not to work. I`m not sure why your trying to lump these people in with the retired - but obviously it`s not the same population.... While they can`t seem to work for some reason or other, they seem to be able to figure out how to reproduce quite readily.
I do not consider both completely related. The exodus of jobs with the disparity growing between rich and poor is not good for the country. It is not all because they are all lazy. Some of these pockets were created by the government by discriminatory housing laws helped by banks for years after being declared illegal. Years ago we were more agricultural based so many could self-subsist but much less so today.
I think we need to get people educated for the jobs of the future - not the past. The majority of the manufacturing jobs are gone and not coming back. College is too expensive -- another racket like health care.
Al
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