are you happy with Obama`s progress so far?

**Barry Theal** · 08-13-2009, 05:03 AM

If it were up to me I would give a 72 hour warning and level any country that ends in "igan" and few along the way. I would then bring every soldier home, but the selected few in the protected hot spots. I would stop feeding every other country and baby sitting there *** and worry about ours. This country was built on freedom, now we are losing everything one small step at a time. Pretty soon I`ll be taxed to take a ****. I`m done with this thread.

**spotter** · 08-13-2009, 09:04 AM

I would be happy "if" there was any progress. From my point of view we are just going backwards. Socialism (looks like sooner than later) and rampant inflation (can`t possibly be stopped at this rate) are not my view of progress. I can`t wait to pay more taxes on my income to pay for more entitlement programs. OBama is an excellent speaker and salesman......I will be interested in hearing how he sells all of this in another two years after we see the real "progress" from his actions. Of course that is a silly statement on my part since the liberal media will spin it until the American public buys it again....and again.

**Bunky** · 08-13-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by bufferbarry

If it were up to me I would give a 72 hour warning and level any country that ends in "igan" and few along the way. I would then bring every soldier home, but the selected few in the protected hot spots. I would stop feeding every other country and baby sitting there *** and worry about ours. This country was built on freedom, now we are losing everything one small step at a time. Pretty soon I`ll be taxed to take a ****. I`m done with this thread.

What is wrong with Michigan?:getdown

**AKOZ** · 08-13-2009, 09:43 PM

No, not at all. I worry for all you guys under 30. You are going to pay for all of it. Scottwax, I also remember Carter`s years. It caused my sisters first home purchase to have an 18% mortgage rate. I also remember waiting on Tuesdays with my father to get gas in the longest lines and most fights in 2-5 hours. Yes, waiting to get gas for a car for 5 hours sometimes longer. Imagine what that would be like today.

Blaming the state of economy. GW does have some blame. All of them do. Don`t forget he didn`t have control of the House and Senate. Mortgage mess, most to Franks, Dodd, Reid, Fannie`s former Johnson a few others. Don`t forget W as well as Reagan inherited recessions. Reagan also had inherited 10%+ unemployment. Even though I disagree with the Air traffic Controller turnout, he gave our economya 20+ year gain, which allowed for tech and banking and manufacturing booms under Bush Sr. and Clinton. That greatly helped Clinton get the deficiet in the black for a period.

Attacks on U.S. property. Clinton had more. I am including Embassies that were attacked. Add that to the Cole and 1st WTC bombings. He hurt us in the trucking and manufacturing sectors just as much as Bush Sr. He went with NAFTA. He did do some good when he realized he had to come to the center and look out after our interests, especially if he wanted another term.

BTW, the body count didn`t stop yet with the WTC. I colnd`t find the link to the number of Firefighters, Police and Voluteers that have been diagnosed with a variety of diseases from the dust etc.. Let alone the people that were on the streets that fateful day.

I wanted to give O a chance but, he blew it. Appointing tax cheats. Especially, one that was part of monetary policies in the Fed. Sad day when students of economics laugh at your Sec. of Treas.

What happened to transparency?

Rushing 800 billion dollars in spending through without reading it, and taking 5 days to sign it anyway. Can`t wait for those tax hikes.

Trying to rush a HR 3200 through without reading it, but take months to pick out a dog as one guy said. Try and brouse through some of that Bill. Can`t understand most of it and what I can understand, WTH. Kids I went to college with were happy as hell when they were here and they got hurt. They had care immediately.

Sorry, I have to stop myself before I lose my mind and can`t detail my truck tomorrow.

I am glad it is the Office and not the man I have to respect.

I am also glad we are safe here in the Greatest Nation on Earth so far.

**imported_Picus** · 08-14-2009, 07:01 AM

Just one point.

If my neighbor wears shorts every day, and I wear pants, and his house catches on fire - it isn`t necessarily because he wore shorts or I wore pants. That should make sense to some of you.

**Setec Astronomy** · 08-14-2009, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Picus

Just one point.

If my neighbor wears shorts every day, and I wear pants, and his house catches on fire - it isn`t necessarily because he wore shorts or I wore pants. That should make sense to some of you.

I think you`ve captured the whole thing in a nutshell.

**imported_mobenzowner** · 08-14-2009, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by Picus

Just one point.

If my neighbor wears shorts every day, and I wear pants, and his house catches on fire - it isn`t necessarily because he wore shorts or I wore pants. That should make sense to some of you.

Yep, lots of variables that may or may not have affected outcomes............

**drew.haynes** · 08-14-2009, 11:09 AM

Obama`s taught me smart habits that are leading to me living a more enjoyable life, no longer "encumbered" by the reality of my debts. I have school loans and a very limited income as a student, but rather than minimizing my debt and reducing my expenditures I actually went and leased a house and bought a couple cars this week. NOW... my future looks bright. My debts will work themselves out. Hahahaha

**Bunky** · 08-14-2009, 02:22 PM

I like presidents that cut taxes without cutting spending and then pretend all is well but blame everything on someone else.

**Scottwax** · 08-14-2009, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by nailzer

Like getting Palin in as president? That should solve all our problems.

Who said that? I know I didn`t. I lean towards the libertarian side of conservatism so I`d be more apt to vote for someone like Newt Gingrich or JC Watts.

**Scottwax** · 08-14-2009, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

We can`t get anything done in Congress (generally speaking) because there isn`t really any considered thought, mostly partisan politics.

Good. Less bills passed means less infringment on our freedoms. Most of what Obama wants will hurt the country so I don`t want it passed at all. If everyone compromises, we still get crap passed but it is only half as crappy as it would have been but that doesn`t seem like a good solution to me.

**Scottwax** · 08-14-2009, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Picus

Just one point.

If my neighbor wears shorts every day, and I wear pants, and his house catches on fire - it isn`t necessarily because he wore shorts or I wore pants. That should make sense to some of you.

aka Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Just because A follows B doesn`t mean B was caused by A.

**Scottwax** · 08-14-2009, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by AKOZ

Rushing 800 billion dollars in spending through without reading it, and taking 5 days to sign it anyway.

He took longer to pick out a dog for his kids. Chew on that.

**AKOZ** · 08-14-2009, 06:57 PM

Scott, I also would have voted Newt in a second. Hope he runs. There are a few good backups for him if he doesn`t run.

heck drew has a good point. Maybe we should all do something like his idea and enjoy b4 we are valued less than Zimbabwe.

**octanefuel808** · 08-15-2009, 10:42 AM

you know what, ive said this once and ill say it again. WHO CARES!

in my eyes, obama has been nothing but a flaccid tool, a pawn played by the government to try and bring back the morale of the people because for once hes not a middle aged white man, but what precedent is he setting?

honestly hes not even on my radar, so i have absolutely no opinion on him really. and its not like i was a mccain supporter either, i just felt this past election was jus another wasted day in history.