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    Quote Originally Posted by ntwrkguy1



    If Harry Truman were alive today, he would probably prefer to drop the next A-Bomb on Washington, D.C.


    what!

    you advocate nuking an American city?!

    that is crazy, even in jest...

    Truman would never do that...

    koo-koo



    this is while he initiated 2 wars, reeling from 9/11 and was spending us into bankruptcy...

    According to an August 2003 article in the Washington Post, President Bush has spent all or part of 166 days during his presidency at his Crawford, Texas, ranch or en route. Add the time spent at or en route to the presidential retreat of Camp David and at the Bush family estate in Kennebunkport, Maine, and Bush has taken 250 days off as of August 2003. That`s 27% of his presidency spent on vacation.





    8.26.2005

    President Bush is on pace to spend more time on vacation than any other president in modern times.

    Today is the 342nd day he has spent at least some part of the day at his ranch, which means he`s spent almost an entire year of his four and a half years in office at the ranch. That doesn`t include time he`s spent at his parents` place in Kennebunkport, Maine, or at Camp David.



    If he stays at his Texas ranch until Sept. 3, as expected, the five-week stint away from the White House -- the 49th vacation he`s taken at the ranch -- will surpass President Nixon`s monthlong trip to Florida 36 years ago as the longest presidential retreat in the modern era.



    Bush isn`t the first president to take a lot of time off. His father, President George H.W. Bush, spent 153 days in Maine and 390 at Camp David; Dwight Eisenhower spent 222 days for 29 golf outings in Augusta, Ga., during his eight years in office; Harry Truman spent 175 days in Key West, Fla., over seven years; and Ronald Reagan famously loved his vacations, spending all or part of 335 days during his eight-year presidency at his Santa Barbara, Calif., ranch



    16.1.2009

    He will likely miss the place: According to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, today`s trip marks Mr. Bush`s 149th visit to the presidential retreat. The planned three-day stay, during which the president is being joined by family and former and current aides, will bring his total time spent at Camp David to all or part of 487 days.



    Yes, that`s 487 days. And Camp David is not even where the president has spent the most time when not at the White House: Knoller reports that Mr. Bush has made 77 visits to his ranch in Crawford during his presidency, and spent all or part of 490 days there.



    he spent 33% of his 8 years on vacation...most of us get 4 weeks or 7-8%



    but it`s wrong when Obama does it...and he`s doing it much less
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    Try reading what socialists say about Obama

    Ask the card-carrying socialists: Is Obama one of them? - CNN.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by rt4x4
    Try reading what socialists say about Obama

    Ask the card-carrying socialists: Is Obama one of them? - CNN.com


    he`s no socialist...meet the new boss, same as the old boss, this system is so large, and beholden to so many, it CAN`T change

    "Socialized health care" is on its way. The "socialist agenda" is taking over America. And best of all, Barack Obama, a "committed socialist ideologue," is in the Oval Office.



    But Wharton, co-chair of the Socialist Party USA, sees no reason to celebrate. He`s seen people with bumper stickers and placards that call Obama a socialist, and he has a message for them: Obama isn`t a socialist. He`s not even a liberal.



    "We didn`t see a great victory with the election of Barack Obama," Wharton says, " and we certainly didn`t see our agenda move from the streets to the White House."
    ////AMG

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    I agree with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by rt4x4
    I agree with you


    at least 2 of us have some sort of objectivity, lol



    bush sr.? 37%+ of his time in office was spent on vacation...un-fricken-believable

    that`s 20 weeks per year...he took a week off for every 10 days he worked...

    and he waged a war!



    like father, like son...you plant corn, you get corn

    and they`re gonna take shots at Obama...it`s down right un-American
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    [quote name=`artm3`]what!

    you advocate nuking an American city?!

    that is crazy, even in jest...

    Truman would never do that...

    koo-koo




    Actually, I was advocating that Truman, in his disgust with present-day politicians, would just as soon nuke them. OBVIOUSLY, he would never do that.....



    And as to Obama`s vacation schedule -- it`s amazing what people will remember when the economy is in the tank. You make an interesting comparison to President Eisenhower, a legitimate American war hero. He golfed 29 times in his EIGHT years in office. Obama went golfing 32 times between taking office and 4/19/2010, a span of approximately 16 months.



    Barack Obama plays golf eight more times than George W Bush - Telegraph



    As far as comparisons go, is there ANY comparison between a community organizer and a man who was the Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in WWII as well as a 5-star General??? Seriously?



    Obama needs to understand the concept of "perception is reality" -- if the voting public does not perceive that he is doing an effective job (even if he NEVER sets foot on a golf course), that`s his reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCSS2005
    I`m just giving you the facts of what they want to do to our health care, And these are the facts. This is straight out of the health care bill. No if and or buts. You can not question anything here because it`s in black and white!!!!!! WHY MUST YOU THINK THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE IN ALL OUR LIVES I SAY STAY THE F*** OUT OF MY LIFE AND LEAVE ME ALONE. BIG GOVERNMENT SUCKS!!! IF YOU WANT TO LIVE EVERYDAY WITH BIG BROTHER WATCH AND KNOWING WHAT`S GOING ON BE MY GUEST. NOT ME PAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !:angry
    Where does it say in the bill that you can`t keep your existing family doctor ? You`re interpreting the bill yourself and spinning it the way you want to. Yes, the bill is black and white, but you`re throwing your own opinions in there on what`s going to happen. That`s not black and white.



    Quote Originally Posted by CCSS2005
    You know at first i wrote something nasty but i deleted it, because I`m better than that. All i can say is you believe what you believe and I`ll believe what is FACTS.



    You are amazing..........The Government pays for it. Yes that`s true. Where do you think the government gets the money ? (I can`t believe i have to explain this to you) TAX PAYERS YOU *******. You know what I`m done with both of you WELFARE CASES!!!! GOOD BYE!!!!
    You`re better than that ? You`re ignorant and you insult how other countries handle their health care systems. I find it hard to believe that you can "be better than that".



    Yeah, and ? Currently, the health care premiums you pay to insurance companies pay for things like marriage counseling. So now you pay the government instead. Are you so near-sighted that you can`t understand that you ALREADY pay for things like this ?
    ... Because your vehicle deserves it too

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    Truman would not nuke a US city...that is insane



    economy is good for me, and getting better...Obama deserves some golf...he earned it...



    Ike was a piker compared to the bush boys...lol, took too little time off...

    the comparison was between bush and Ike, and I did not write it, it was to illustrate how much LESS time Ike took off...

    what you need to realize is they were comparing a deserter & coward to a US war hero...

    much like the bush jr. vs Kerry comparison



    some folks perception is skewed, much like your posts...

    like your golf BS

    Obama plays and likes golf, bush does not, hence Obama playing more!

    compare time off for any activity to date



    Quote Originally Posted by ntwrkguy1

    Actually, I was advocating that Truman, in his disgust with present-day politicians, would just as soon nuke them. OBVIOUSLY, he would never do that.....



    And as to Obama`s vacation schedule -- it`s amazing what people will remember when the economy is in the tank. You make an interesting comparison to President Eisenhower, a legitimate American war hero. He golfed 29 times in his EIGHT years in office. Obama went golfing 32 times between taking office and 4/19/2010, a span of approximately 16 months.



    Barack Obama plays golf eight more times than George W Bush - Telegraph



    As far as comparisons go, is there ANY comparison between a community organizer and a man who was the Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in WWII as well as a 5-star General??? Seriously?



    Obama needs to understand the concept of "perception is reality" -- if the voting public does not perceive that he is doing an effective job (even if he NEVER sets foot on a golf course), that`s his reality.
    ////AMG

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    Quote Originally Posted by artm3
    Truman would not nuke a US city...that is insane



    economy is good for me, and getting better...Obama deserves some golf...he earned it...



    Ike was a piker compared to the bush boys...lol, took too little time off...

    the comparison was between bush and Ike, and I did not write it, it was to illustrate how much LESS time Ike took off...

    what you need to realize is they were comparing a deserter & coward to a US war hero...

    much like the bush jr. vs Kerry comparison



    some folks perception is skewed, much like your posts...

    like your golf BS

    Obama plays and likes golf, bush does not, hence Obama plating more!

    compare time off for any activity to date


    Interesting......because the following was taken directly from your post. Doesn`t really seem like it`s trying to emphasize how little time Eisenhower took off, now does it?



    Bush isn`t the first president to take a lot of time off. His father, President George H.W. Bush, spent 153 days in Maine and 390 at Camp David; Dwight Eisenhower spent 222 days for 29 golf outings in Augusta, Ga., during his eight years in office; Harry Truman spent 175 days in Key West, Fla., over seven years; and Ronald Reagan famously loved his vacations, spending all or part of 335 days during his eight-year presidency at his Santa Barbara, Calif., ranch



    If you think John Kerry was a war hero, then your perception is sadly skewed. I can tell by your posts that you are an Obama apologist, and that`s cool. Hopefully things continue to go well for you.

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    1st year

    Obama 26 days

    bush 69 days (during 9/11!!!)



    President Obama has spent all or part of 26 days "on vacation" during his first year as president, according to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller.



    President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential mansion in the nation’s capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total "vacation" trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of them — all or part of 69 days — came during his first year as president in 2001, according to Knoller.



    Obama is one of the lowest....only 2 others lower...

    But at least two recent presidents — by Knoller’s count — took less "vacation" time during their first year than President Obama — Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

    hmmmm, BOTH are Democrats...surprise, surprise
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    Obama apologist? what`s he got to apologize for?

    I prefer to call it `sanity` and `objectivity`, not `apologist`

    not your skewed self loathing for our Country

    `all enemies, foreign and domestic`

    it`s you who needs to be a bit more objective: turn off the limbag, et al, and join us in a place called `reality`



    the US Navy said he was, not me... :think:

    regardless, he volunteered and didn`t get daddy to get him shortlisted

    he volunteered for Nam, bush declined service in nam, then went AWOL (desertion in time of war?)



    math 001:

    222 in 8 years (7%) is a LOT less than 543 in 4 (37%)

    so is 175 in 7 (7%) or 335 in 8 (11%)...

    read the actual content...not how you want it to read...

    not everything can be twisted or distorted to fit your desire/preconcieved notions, ie, fit your `agenda`

    that`s called `insanity`, as in Truman bombing DC



    Quote Originally Posted by ntwrkguy1
    Interesting......because the following was taken directly from your post. Doesn`t really seem like it`s trying to emphasize how little time Eisenhower took off, now does it?



    Bush isn`t the first president to take a lot of time off. His father, President George H.W. Bush, spent 153 days in Maine and 390 at Camp David; Dwight Eisenhower spent 222 days for 29 golf outings in Augusta, Ga., during his eight years in office; Harry Truman spent 175 days in Key West, Fla., over seven years; and Ronald Reagan famously loved his vacations, spending all or part of 335 days during his eight-year presidency at his Santa Barbara, Calif., ranch



    If you think John Kerry was a war hero, then your perception is sadly skewed. I can tell by your posts that you are an Obama apologist, and that`s cool. Hopefully things continue to go well for you.
    ////AMG

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    Quote Originally Posted by artm3
    1st year

    Obama 26 days

    bush 69 days (during 9/11!!!)



    President Obama has spent all or part of 26 days "on vacation" during his first year as president, according to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller.



    President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential mansion in the nation’s capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total "vacation" trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of them — all or part of 69 days — came during his first year as president in 2001, according to Knoller.



    Obama is one of the lowest....only 2 others lower...

    But at least two recent presidents — by Knoller’s count — took less "vacation" time during their first year than President Obama — Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

    hmmmm, BOTH are Democrats...surprise, surprise




    Both ARE Democrats -- one will go down in history as one of the worst US Presidents of all time, and the other is Bill Clinton, a guy with questionable morals but the ability to realize he needed to be a moderate to get things done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntwrkguy1
    Both ARE Democrats -- one will go down in history as one of the worst US Presidents of all time, and the other is Bill Clinton, a guy with questionable morals but the ability to realize he needed to be a moderate to get things done.


    Reagan was an adulterer



    Clinton a moderate? really?



    bush will be the worst, closely followed by papa...
    ////AMG

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    it`s `bedtime for Bonzo`
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    Quote Originally Posted by artm3
    Reagan was an adulterer



    Clinton a moderate? really?



    bush will be the worst, closely followed by papa...




    Yes, Clinton was a moderate. Feel free to look it up.



    Actually, Carter is at the bottom currently -- will history be so kind to Obama as to make him the lowest ranked?

 

 
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