My first car was 1975 Pontiac Grand am (not like the later grand am`s, tis was a real car)
Fully loaded
Tax Lic delivered in NYC $5000.00
My first car was 1975 Pontiac Grand am (not like the later grand am`s, tis was a real car)
Fully loaded
Tax Lic delivered in NYC $5000.00
Formerly the "Best Detailer", now just Super Wax Waster Man. Not necessarily tactful, but normally right. It`s good to be da King !!!
It`d be awesome if every new vehicle came with a simple version without the gizmos and unnecessary junk that causes more problems, and then add all those things as an option to those willing to pay for it. It`s like little by little we`re being left with no option but to get all these things we don`t want in new vehicles that we know will cause us more headaches down the road.....sad.
They could call it "The Standard Vehicle Package" (without gizmos) , and "The YOLO Package"(with all gizmos)
I hear ya. When my wife and I were recently looking at Expeditions, we went to ford`s site to "build" one just out of curiosity. It was beyond irritating to get a few options we wanted you could only get them with equipment packages full of stuff we didn`t need that drove the price of the vehicle up thousands of dollars.
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Hey guys and gals. Sorry this is my first post. I haven`t done an introduction post but I had to chime in. This is a great thread.
Vehicles do cost way to much. It`s truly ludicrous. At the moment I lease. I have a 2014 gmc sierra. I`m actually pretty excited about the lease for a bunch of reasons. I don`t look at it like I`m accepting a car payment for the rest of my life. I could easily go buy a cheaper used vehicle and pay it off in a couple years.
I only had a late model Tahoe for trade and they gave me 1500 for it. Could I have got more selling it...sure but the difference wasn`t worth the hassle. I was looking at buying an 09 with 40,000 miles on it. I would have had to take payments out to 5 years to be able to afford it. Luckily a family friend is the salesman I deal with. Great guy. He said I could lease a brand new truck for an extra $30 a month. Sounds like a no brainer for me. They even pay for all the maintenance for two of the three years. I live in upstate new York so rust is a huge problem. By the time I payed off the 09 there wouldn`t be much left of it and that`s very discouraging. It`s the main reason I don`t want to buy a brand new truck. I`ve seen year old vehicles here with the wheel wells bubbling and rust poking out. How can I justify a huge payment with not much to show for after I own it.
Now in three years I can give it back and have something new to play with. I feel like newer vehicles are obviously much safer and that makes me feel better when the family is in the truck.
Later in life...who know maybe I`ll buy a beater DD. And then actually buy a new summer vehicle that I own.
Everybody has different reasons to lease or buy but the bottom line is they are all too expensive. Just wanted to share my story. Thanks for reading.
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Formerly the "Best Detailer", now just Super Wax Waster Man. Not necessarily tactful, but normally right. It`s good to be da King !!!
Should the US government (we, the American people) bailed out the American car industry?? This is a good lesson in economics about business with government support. What would have happened had the car industries been allowed to go bankrupt? Would a foreign company bought them out?
It`s not that the car industry is out of touch with American buyer; they are out of touch with the American worker, both within their plants and the customers they expect to buy these new vehicles. $75,000 for an new Z-28 Camaro? REALLY? I could afford one in the late 70`s when they were $9,500; but not now when I do not make much more than I did 30 years ago. I think that`s true for ALOT of working Americans who are still struggling since the Great Recession "recovery" has taken place. Many are working 2 jobs because of cut-back hours from companies to avoid the Affordable Health Care requirements or avoid paying benefits altogether.
You are also seeing the effects of "the government debt" and its unintended result of inflation. Don`t tell me that cost-of-living expenses haven`t started to out-pace small-growth (or zero-growth) wages. Despite much lower energy cost due to a foreign supply realization that America really could achieve less-dependence on foreign oil, it has not translated to the rest of the economy. Those in the related energy fields know all too well how it is starting to affect their financial situations. It is a great time for the consumer who uses (and pays for) that energy, but as stated previously, someone suffers the consequences of lower prices. It`s pretty elementary economics.
So where does that leave those of us who detail for a living or even as a hobby or side-job?? Are you seeing more customers come in with older vehicles OR are car owners doing just enough to get by and avoiding the cost of good detail as being too expensive and unnecessary (at least in their opinion)? Or are car owners realizing that maybe they can make their older (and sometimes much older) car last a few years longer and make it look decent with a good detail?? How many new cars have you detailed in the last year, whether for profit or just for fun? You know the answer to that question better than I do.
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The devil made me do it the first time.
The second time I done it on my own.
The only good thing about getting old is no longer having to worry about dying young.
What ever happened to those Nissan/Datsun concept cars? I remember they were receiving a lot of positive feedback since they were supposed to be priced low for a brand new car. If I remember correctly it was about ~$10,000 brand new?
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wow, those look really nice IMO, i can see a retro look to them. I`d pay double that for one of these.
Wonder how they could do all the mandatory safety stuff for ~$10K. I do like that type of retro-look!
Those cars remind me of the first generation Toyota Celica I had in the seventies. That was a great car. They used the engine from those cars in taxi cabs in Japan. Overhead cam and Macpherson struts. We paid less than $3000 for the car when it was new and I sold it for $500 in 1986. I saw it years later still running. Definitely bang for the buck.
This is the car it was model after Datsun 510. Late 60`s early 70`s from what I have read it is a very popular Japanese tuner/restomod car.
I bought one of the cheapest cars that got around 40mpg in 2011 and i literally hate new car preventive maintenance, and xar payments
Got like 2 more years
Hopefully my kia class action lawsuit comes through soon.
Once monthly payments are done im selling then buying another 60s/70s car
Miss driving vintage everyday
Something goes wrong like a transmission
Th350 is like 50 bucks used
Buick v8 is 50 to 350
Rearend 200 lol
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