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    Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    I hear thats it takes a lot of training and some expensive equipment to work on aluminum. I believe that it might cost more for the time being. Are others going to switch to aluminum? That should bring the cost down. Not surprised that GM is calling out Ford, but if im not mistaken they want to build an aluminum truck too. Oh, thats right, only if it works for Ford.

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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    GM not far behind, so they gonna stay quiet.
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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    Just double checked, yep GM will most likely have a aluminum truck after a couple years.

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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    One of our Audis has aluminum body panels and suspension components to reduce weight. They are about 4X more money than a steel equivalent.

    When first I heard about Ford`s new F150, I said to myself, "wow, those guys are gonna be in for a big surprise when they need to do typical pick up truck repairs !!"
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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    Insurance gonna be higher than on the vette
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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    One of the reasons why I chose my Sierra over the new Ford. Both good trucks though, spent time with both of them. I will say that the new GM`s seem more solid/sturdy than the new Fords when driving.

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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    Yes indeed, body repairs to the A8 and S8 were very pricey. And now there aren`t any remotely local places authorized to do the work either...

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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    No surprise.

    I don`t agree with the touted "benefits" of aluminum. I`ll just put my soap box up before I start and leave it at... I think it`s mostly marketing and their excuse to get old cars off the streets. Stop making the aluminum replacement parts after a few years, it can`t be fixed, it goes to the scrap yard. Same thing with their "green" dashes that are supposed to last 10 years.

    Good news about the aluminum though - it will be worth more to scrap after a total loss.
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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    I haven`t owned an aluminum skinned vehicle so I have no opinion that`s worth beans, unless by some chance this new Edge has aluminum fenders. I`m going to have to check that out now. That said, aluminum doesn`t rust out and it`s oxidation process is likely slower than a similar steel piece. Can`t quote me on that as I don`t have anything to back it up. Salt still does a number on aluminum. The benefit that aluminum brings to the table is plain and simple. It weighs less. As the CAFE standards get tougher I believe you`ll see more and more aluminum vehicles being offered. I think it might be funny should GM choose to go this route to play the re-runs of the commercials they`re putting out this year. They`ll have to spin it as they do aluminum right.
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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    Quote Originally Posted by GearHead_1 View Post
    I haven`t owned an aluminum skinned vehicle so I have no opinion that`s worth beans, uness by some chance this new Edge has aluminum fenders. I`m going to have to check that out now. That said, aluminum doesn`t rust out and it`s oxidation process is likely slower than a similar steel piece. Can`t quote me on that as I don`t have anything to back it up. Salt still does a number on aluminum. The benefit that aluminum brings to the table is plain and simple. It weighs less. As the CAFE standards get tougher I believe you`ll see more and more aluminum vehicles being offered. I think it might be funny should GM choose to go this route to play the re-runs of the commercials they`re putting out this year. They`ll have to spin it as they do aluminum right.
    Yes, but the weight deference isn`t going to translate to a consumer benefit. Mileage increases will be negligible if even noticeable since we`re talking less than 1,000 lbs.

    I don`t see anything wrong with it, just don`t see much of a point either. Aluminum panels dent so easily too - that I know from first hand experience.

    I do agree with your last couple lines. Would be funny to see what they do.
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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    I think the advertised weight difference is only about 700 lbs. on the typical F150. That said, I don`t know any manufacturer that wouldn`t like to drop the weight of a vehicle by 15% - 20% when it comes to fuel econonomy. It couldn`t help but make a difference over the long haul. Will the consumer see it in their wallet? I don`t know. When you factor in the cost of repairs and potentially the up front costs, the offset may end up being negligeable but it sure makes it easier on the Manufacturer when it comes to hitting it`s targets.
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    Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    That was kind of my point. I doubt the consumer will ever see the benefit. It`s kind of like the cost of hybrids vs non-hybrid. The consumer would have to drive a lot of miles (don`t remember a closer number than "a lot" to offset the higher initial purchase price and we haven`t even got into the higher repair costs on that either.
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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    My 90 Miata had an aluminum hood.

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    Re: Ford F-150 aluminum repairs cost more than steel, IIHS says

    The ford mustangs have alumn hoods and they keep bubbling under the front seams. Ford repairs them once then your warrantys up and your SOL. Guys are just buying aftermarket hoods

 

 
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