AutopiaForum and Autopia.org MERGED! Breaking News

[ca.detailchick]

Do you promise it will all work out? How do you know. What if I have a problem with my show car finish and all people will tell me it to buy a 3d product. Boo hoo.

Lol. Just kidding for anyone wondering.

We are ALL GOING to make it.

But I like it here the way it is.

Ps. Chick, if you leave for another forum PM me so I. Can tag along. This is really my main go to forum, and place I feel like the people are normal.

J,I am not going anywhere unless I start my own Detailchick forum!

I cant beleive you even put me in the category of "normal"!WOW!

Now seriously I came from old PAC forum and AF very graciously welcomed us here and we should do the same for new members that are coming .

You may even meet someone and become best of friends .

[Nutbread]

Wow, that is just way out of line. I don`t pretend to know the details as you do, but I do know that the original owner of autopia.COM and autopia-carcare.com, David B., split the forum off into a separate entity (autopia.ORG), and later sold them off separately, the forum to 3D and the store to his autopia partner (David O.) and his Ultima partner (Premium Finish Care). They in turn sold the store to PBMG (PBMA at that time).

It seems that after David B. split them up and sold the store there were two entities that had the rights to the name Autopia.

I believe the store was sold first, someone correct me if I`m wrong.

[Troy@Protekt]

Never thought Detail City would eventually be rolled into Autopia.

Looking forward to seeing what`s next.

Exciting times in the detailing industry.

[ZL1Mark]

Wow, that is just way out of line. I don`t pretend to know the details as you do, but I do know that the original owner of autopia.COM and autopia-carcare.com, David B., split the forum off into a separate entity (autopia.ORG), and later sold them off separately, the forum to 3D and the store to his autopia partner (David O.) and his Ultima partner (Premium Finish Care). They in turn sold the store to PBMG (PBMA at that time).

I`m not sure how you get out of that that the owner of Autopia Car Care can`t have a forum named Autopia Forums without infringing...something.

If there was a lawsuit, it`s just as likely 3D lost, and Mr. McKee was generous enough to buy the forum as some sort of consolation. I notice the member over there with the purported inside info about this whole thing didn`t have any comment afterwards.

There`s a lot of anti-AG/PBMG sentiment over at .org, and a lot of it doesn`t have anything to do with the Autopia name. I had a few posts over there so I`m not exactly taking anything out of left field.

Heard there was a lawsuit. Just sayin`

[Bunky]

This would usually be the time when the dissatisfied would not follow and start their own forum. However, this time, it would be not be very successful..similar to Detailer`s Club forum.

[EVOlved]

Great news indeed, wonder if the sponsor`s over there like ( Adams, Detailer`s Domain ) will be coming over here?

This I would highly doubt Bob and PBMG are after all a business. But hey who knows.

[The Driver]

I`ve been apart of over 30 boards, between the cars I`ve owned an getting business through them... this is probably the most chill board I`ve been apart of besides AF (Automotiveforums )

The problem is when you have these forums that are too focused, I feel as though some people take them to seriously. Automotiveforums was/is HUGE. Being so segmented and so many members, hostility is very rare there.

I also feel as though, the other autopia/org was ALOT more negative. I`ve been over there a few times and it`s a lot of bashing, snide remarks an just over all wasteful. I hope they adopt our attitude here an not the other way around.

[Bunky]

This I would highly doubt Bob and PBMG are after all a business. But hey who knows.

I would guess/hope he will not change the model. PBMG is a lot bigger and views this as a broader marketing audience. Some sellers (like Adam`s) may not want to stay giving the marketing muscle. Except for private brands, PBMG sells or will sell almost anything subject to limitations of marketing restrictions - like Zaino.

[Pats300zx]

This I would highly doubt Bob and PBMG are after all a business. But hey who knows.

It`s my understanding that there will be vendor forums. I believe 3D is going to have it`s own section as will some other manufacturers.

[JSFM35X]

I could not agree with you more. I started at the old Autopia then found TID which I liked better then this was created and with Todd at the helm (pun intended) he build a very similar online forum where people can share ideas, and it foresters a good sense of community. People are rarely if ever flamed, no question is stupid and members are very willing to help.

I can see how we retain that adding the members from the other Autopia given the nonsense I see at .org.

I`ve been apart of over 30 boards, between the cars I`ve owned an getting business through them... this is probably the most chill board I`ve been apart of besides AF (Automotiveforums )

The problem is when you have these forums that are too focused, I feel as though some people take them to seriously. Automotiveforums was/is HUGE. Being so segmented and so many members, hostility is very rare there.

I also feel as though, the other autopia/org was ALOT more negative. I`ve been over there a few times and it`s a lot of bashing, snide remarks an just over all wasteful. I hope they adopt our attitude here an not the other way around.

[Pats300zx]

With change there is always going to be negativity. I for one welcome the new Autopia. I was part of the original .org forum for well over 10 years and back in the day it was the "pinnacle" of detailing information and knowledge. Every and any detailing professional domestically and internationally was on that forum. Some of the greatest and epic "Click and Brag" posts were generated from the Autopia forum. I can still remember Todd Helme`s epic Ferrari posts with over 100 pictures detailing every aspect of Concours de Elegance detailing.

We used to have Wednesday night "chat nights" with some of the greatest detailing minds in the industry.

I can still remember:

-Microfiber group buys-microfiber towels were even popular at this point and the debate raged over cotton diaper vs microfiber towel use

-Pinnacle Souveran group buys-it was the first high end carnuaba that I ever purchased.

-Lab49 sample conspiracies with the release of Megs NXT wax

-Zaino wars (similar to WWIII)

With a forum that size the egos were just as big but the knowledge and info flow was huge.

I can`t wait to see what the future holds

[RaysWay]

I can`t wait to see what the future holds

We`ve got HUGE things planned. 2015 is going to be a big year. It`s very exciting.

[pwaug]

Been a member over at .ORG since 2002, but didn`t have the time or need to do much detailing starting in 2005 so I guess I missed all the drama, banning and bad blood.
Note: It`s my understanding that the banned members from the pervious owner have been invited back since 3D owned the site.

I`m really surprised to hear comments about 3D products being pushed too hard and drama/negativety. Since I became active again in 2009 I have never felt 3D products were pushed too much. To the contrary have found there is a wide range of products from many companys discussed and recommended. And I haven`t observed drama and negativety with the exception of one or two members for a short period of time who have since stopped participating.

One of the advantages of .ORG is it`s openness--if you find a great source for MF towels, if another site has polishers on sale, if a another site has low shipping charges or a special sale you can post the information without the post being deleted or without fear of being banned or admonished. I look forward to the new combined site, but hope it will maintain this openness.

[Paul Sparks]

Been a member over at .ORG since 2002, but didn`t have the time or need to do much detailing starting in 2005 so I guess I missed all the drama, banning and bad blood.
Note: It`s my understanding that the banned members from the pervious owner have been invited back since 3D owned the site.

I`m really surprised to hear comments about 3D products being pushed too hard and drama/negativety. Since I became active again in 2009 I have never felt 3D products were pushed too much. To the contrary have found there is a wide range of products from many companys discussed and recommended. And I haven`t observed drama and negativety with the exception of one or two members for a short period of time who have since stopped participating.

One of the advantages of .ORG is it`s openness--if you find a great source for MF towels, if another site has polishers on sale, if a another site has low shipping charges or a special sale you can post the information without the post being deleted or without fear of being banned or admonished. I look forward to the new combined site, but hope it will maintain this openness.

Pretty well sums up what I was thinking.

[David Fermani]

I too am looking very forward to the merging of both Autopias! This will be happening very soon and will ultimately be under the www.autopia.org web address. This is actually one of the reasons why the .org forum is temporarily down for much needed maintenance. It should be back up very soon.

Even though both forums are quite differently represented, I feel confident that all members will be mature enough to look beyond old issues and move forward for the sake of making Autopia the best forum that it can possibly be. I am very excited to soon be having great discussions about what we are all here for....Detailing!

On behalf of Autopia.org I would like to apologize to anyone that has been offended by what I or any of the forum members may have directly or indirectly done. I would also like to openly invite each any every member back to Autopia.org before the merger is completed to acclimate yourself to our site. I was actually very instrumental with the negotiation process between 3D & PBMA and if anyone has any questions regarding the current direction of this merger or further plans for the forum please free to voice your concerns.