To Suds or not to suds?

[SVR]

With the Zero bucket method I use, that is spray bottle with 25 to 50% soap and water, there is more lubrication and a soap that foams a little or not much at all is fine, its all about lubrication, slickness and being the right soap for the right situation
IE - dusty - make the soap weaker or use a soap that`s designed for well kept paint

sodium laureth sulphate and the cocoamido betained (coconut based stuff) is what is usually used as a thickener and foaming agent to my knowledge and suds really don`t do alot, they help with slightly longer dwell time but that`s about it
I hate soaps that take the slickness away from the paint over time

I`m a rinseless fan too, developed some new methods with that and a hybrid of both wet and rinseless

[rlmccarty2000]

Thanks Waxaddict and SVR, I learned something from both of you. Do either of you mix any rinseless into your soap bucket to increase slickness or is this a waste of time/money? I`ve tried using an ounce of Pinnacle WW into my soap and rinse buckets to see if I could stop water spots. Not sure I accomplished much of anything except getting rid of a product that is (IMHO) not the best waterless wash.

[WaxAddict]

Thanks Waxaddict and SVR, I learned something from both of you. Do either of you mix any rinseless into your soap bucket to increase slickness or is this a waste of time/money? I`ve tried using an ounce of Pinnacle WW into my soap and rinse buckets to see if I could stop water spots. Not sure I accomplished much of anything except getting rid of a product that is (IMHO) not the best waterless wash.

I think, in most cases, that an ounce or two of ONR to the soap bucket can only be a good thing, but like steak sauce, it shouldn`t be necessary if the starting product is prime product. To my Luso soap, no, I don`t add it. I did add it to Optimum and DG soaps.

[Accumulator]

I`ve tried adding IUDJ to my shampoo buckets and sure enough that made things slicker. BUT I also wonder about the chance of it making dirt/etc. stick to my wash media as opposed to being flushed away by the foamgun...not an issue I suppose for folks who expect to find dirt in their rinse buckets, but that`s not me. I`m still just mulling the whole thing over, haven`t made up my mind yet whether I like it or not.

But for most people I`d guess that it could indeed be worthwhile.

[JustJesus]

...But then, I dont believe in gritguards either... Its just me and Jared Pointer I believe...
...
Dan F

And me. I shelved my Grit Guard sometime back.

I`m finding this an interesting discussion!

I bet that the wash technique being used factors in big-time with regard to which side of this fence one`s on....

I believe you are right, Accumulator.

I found that the Accumulator Mix (GG/3d Pink) is pretty good (with a foamer spray nozzle) to loosen up some dirt, and carry it away, even prior to taking a hose to it.

[Mr. Slick]

I vote lotsa suds. If I`m washing one of my neighbors cars another neighbor will notice the high suds and it looks like luxary so they ask me to do theirs. Otherwise it looks like I`m chinzing with the soap.


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[Swanicyouth]

I dunno what this Rupes soap is that doesn`t make suds. But the Rupes soap I have is a normal soap that makes suds / bubbles - like any normal soap.

This could be a case of Internet nonsense.

[Accumulator]

I found that the Accumulator Mix (GG/3d Pink) is pretty good (with a foamer spray nozzle) to loosen up some dirt, and carry it away, even prior to taking a hose to it.

Huh, that`s even more effective than it is for me!

How do the two shampoos work for you when used by themselves?