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    Quote Originally Posted by RZJZA80
    Well damn now I feel bad for Jeff and he does have a point, if what he did was that bad, he wouldn`t find work anywhere in the world, but he apparently does. So, let`s let it be and move on from this thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by RZJZA80
    Well while what do you`re saying is probably true, how is the guy still getting work? I mean, fillers eventually fade, so how`s he still around doing the same thing? That`s what I don`t understand.


    The exact same way people still go to dealerships to get their cars done. The same people who go to $59.99 Jeff Puggs Detailing Service. Jeff gets a lot of work because there are hundreds of millions of cars in the world. Along with millions and millions and millions worth of moronic owners who do not know the difference between a Jeff Sudds Hack Detailing and most of the professional correct high end detailers on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RZJZA80
    Well while what do you`re saying is probably true, how is the guy still getting work? I mean, fillers eventually fade, so how`s he still around doing the same thing? That`s what I don`t understand.


    Easy, afterwards people think themselves caused the swirls with bad wash and drying techniques.



    Also, not always the best makes money, think of Bose and Beat Audio. Marketing wins many times, maybe that is why he wants negative posts removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelzntoys
    Easy, afterwards people think themselves caused the swirls with bad wash and drying techniques.


    Yep. I just corrected a 2013 black Audi A4 that the dealership hacked. The owner washed it one time a week after driving off the lot and uncovered the mess. Fortunately he came to see me before going back to the dealership where he was told he caused those swirls through his washing method. They wanted to have their detailers try to fix it. I sent him well prepared and they agreed to cover half the cost. Had he not come to me first they might have convinced him that he caused it, especially if they filled it in again and he didn`t see the holograms until he washed it again.

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    This is the worst thread I have ever seen on this site. I came in here hoping to learn something about paint over spray and all I learned was this guy is on YouTube. :fail:

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    I haven`t read every page or every post on this thread, just the first few pages. Someone fill me in, is Jeff a troll? Is this serious, real life? This guy is saying that a razor blade doesn`t scratch paint, and that he doesn`t abrade the paint AT ALL when polishing out those scratches? The things he says about his method make NO LOGICAL SENSE! How is it that my finger when applied with barely any pressure to the clear coat on my friends 2011 outback will mar his paint but a razor will not? How can he take a wool pad at that high of speed to the plastic door handle on the red Ford truck and not damage it at all? How can you possibly use a rotary at that high of rpm at THAT ANGLE and create no swirl marks? Sorry if I`m late on this one, but I`m just confused on whether he is real or if this is an Autopian mocking the typical hack and buff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winstonson
    I haven`t read every page or every post on this thread, just the first few pages. Someone fill me in, is Jeff a troll? Is this serious, real life? This guy is saying that a razor blade doesn`t scratch paint, and that he doesn`t abrade the paint AT ALL when polishing out those scratches? The things he says about his method make NO LOGICAL SENSE! How is it that my finger when applied with barely any pressure to the clear coat on my friends 2011 outback will mar his paint but a razor will not? How can he take a wool pad at that high of speed to the plastic door handle on the red Ford truck and not damage it at all? How can you possibly use a rotary at that high of rpm at THAT ANGLE and create no swirl marks? Sorry if I`m late on this one, but I`m just confused on whether he is real or if this is an Autopian mocking the typical hack and buff.


    Jeff is very much real -- he honestly does not believe he is doing anything wrong.
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    Jeff, Keeping old school techniques alive is a way to make yourself unique. My dad thought me your trick years ago and if that`s what works for you great. My only criticism is your use of bc2 and quantum, as I`m very very familiar with these products. Bc2 is chalked full of fillers, and you say after a wash down the road they still look good, I beg to differ. I used bc2 for years and thought i was doing such a great job... And quantum is a joke, and the reason detailers have a hard time selling coatings to the average consumer, because they got screwed at the dealer with this product saying "o look I`m gonna spray paint straight on your car and wipe it right off". I live in Texas and am mobile, if you`d like to learn how to correctly polish paint without holograms instead of covering it up let me know, I`m all about helping people

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    wow i would LOVE to jump into this thread. will get back to it when i can. sorry for the double post.

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    I think it`s time to :lock1: this thread. I see no point in reopening this discussion. Agree to disagree.

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    not time to lock, i just got here. sorry to be late to the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nth Degree
    I think it`s time to :lock1: this thread. I see no point in reopening this discussion. Agree to disagree.


    Agreed. Nobody is going to change his mind or get him to see the light, so rehashing things isn`t going to do any good. Better to spend time productively and help people who want to be helped.
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    Yeah!!!!!!

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    EDIT: This thread has been opened as the trash has been: :washing:
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