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    I have made some bad comments about other members, but take the time to see what was said about me first. I have had enough of all this, its not my way. not all the members on these forums have made negative comments, its the same people on all these forums that are doing it. I would like see if they are as brave in person as they are behind a key board. No more comments from you guys and no more riding on my back for free search optimization results hoping someone will jump in on all these negative talk and join your sites. I will cancel all memberships, if this ends today. I have a 100 plus group of very high end vehicles to repair in Dubai and would not like someone from there or the insurance company to see all the stupid comments from all of us involved. Its my fault for buying into all this point less conversations. All of the major insurance companies, magazines, websites from all over the world, web ads and everything else means much more to me then going back and forth with the members of these forums. google search results for detailingbliss https://www.google.com/search?q=paint+overspray+removal+companies&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a#q=detailingbliss&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&prmd=imvns&psj=1&ei=aocYUIz0B-ThiAKU_oGwAQ&start=10&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r _qf.,cf.osb&fp=cc4eb5510b8b5357&biw=1680&bih=857

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
    This would a much better forum if i was not involved.


    :werd: For once, Jeff, I completely, 100% agree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
    I would like see if they are as brave in person as they are behind a key board.


    That sounds an awful lot like a threat, Jeff.... tread carefully here.
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    ***** your work sucked on that Mercedes, and everyone but your buddies know it. I would have never put that kind of work on youtube. Why is it that you talk more then you demonstrate your work? I have nothing against you *****. You are the one that put me into your video when you mentioned the razor blade. That was directed towards me. I have never made a video with you in mind. The work you did damaged the vehicle`s clear-coat. You guys are always saying to me to put some solvent on a paint that I have repaired, to prove my work. Your work was sub-standard at best. you and your friends are just lying to each other. That is why your customer had not used you in such a long time, as you mentioned in your video. He was scared to ! This is how its done

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    Again, i edit because what i posted feeds into the nonsense here and it lacks the professionalism that i should present. This subject is just not worth my time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
    The only reason these forums have let this go on is for free search optimization. When we have these stupid post on these sites they end up on Google search results. this is a great way for these forums to get new members at my expense. I will link the google search results for "paint overspray removal companies".


    Can I ask a simple question? What was the original purpose of this thread? You spam the forum with all your videos and keywords and then wonder why it might turn up in a search for those keywords? How many search engine results your name generates or how many videos you`ve posted means nothing to your credibility, even more so when you`ve created them all yourself. I`m not going to criticize your work like some might, because frankly I think your videos speak for themselves, but what does name calling and trying to defame respected detailers such as Garry do for yourself? You accuse Detailing Bliss of slander (even you don`t seem to know the definition of that word,) but all the search engine results that you posted for that site that link back to you were created by you. It seems your only purpose here is to discredit others and promote your own name while doing a poor job of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
    I have made some bad comments about other members, but take the time to see what was said about me first. I have has enough all this, its not my way. not all the members on these forums have made negative comments, its the same people on all these forums that are doing it. I would like see if they are as brave in person as they are behind a key board. No more comments from you guys and no more riding on my back for free search optimization results hoping someone will jump in on all these negative talk and join your sites. I will cancel all memberships if this ends today. I have a 100 plus group of very high end vehicles to repair in Dubai and would not like someone from there or the insurance company to see all the stupid comments form all of us involved. Its my fault for buying into all this point less conversations. All of the major insurance companies, magazines, websites from all over the world, web ads and everything else means much more to me then going back and forth with the members of these forums.




    Jeff,



    Perhaps you have forgotten who the OP is on this thread.



    This forum went for > 7 months without a post from you. With the exception of perhaps a passing comment in reference to past threads your name was all but forgotten. Then two weeks ago you posted a valid, respectful question. It was simply misplaced and it was suggested you start a new thread with the question in order to increase the chances of getting the response you were looking for. Charlie even provided a link to help you out. You then started this thread with an insult to every detailer here and you have yet to ask your question. So don`t for a minute attempt to blame anyone else for starting this.



    If you have nothing to prove, fine. Go on and make money doing what you do and leave us to do the same. You could very well be the best there is at over-spray removal. If that is the case there is no better advertising you could get than an endorsement from some of the top detailers across the country. We don`t all have to see the work first hand. Just one person who is respected reporting their observations is all it would take. (Video of an entire such session would be phenomenal.) Perhaps you have something to teach us. Perhaps you could learn something from us. Not because you or we intend to use the information to make money, but simply to understand from the other side`s point of view. There is no doubt that the vehicles you show look better when you finish. You are a paint removal specialist, not a detailer.



    So to summarize; there are two ways to get these type of threads to stop. 1.) Don`t post. It worked for 7 months. 2.) Invite one of the detailers who doubts you to inspect your work first hand, not only to teach, but also to have an open mind to learn from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
    I would like see if they are as brave in person as they are behind a key board. No more comments from you guys and no more riding on my back for free search optimization results hoping someone will jump in on all these negative talk and join your sites.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
    Garry your work sucked on that Mercedes, and everyone but your buddies know it. I would not have never put that kind of work on youtube. Why is it that you talk more then you demonstrate your work? Your work was sub-standard at best. you and your friends are just lying to each other. That is why your customer had not used you in such a long time, as you mentioned in your video. He was scared to !




    Mr. Jeff Suggs and everyone else involved in this thread>>>>



    STOP NOW!!! :hand::nono:tape:



    This is a discussion forum, not a dog & pony show to disrespect members. We are here to professionally discuss detailing. If you don`t have anything productive to add, then leave.



    I responded to your comments above in a civil and professional manner, but you choose to go a different patch. You need to get your act together and start over. I think you have alot of valueable info to share as long as you keep your ego at the door. This forum is filled with very accomplished detailers and just because they focus their efforts differently then you doesn`t give you the right to look down on them. I also feel that many comment that some people made to you were not in good taste as well. So from this point on, if you are willing to conduct yourself in a professional and productive manner then by all means..continue. If you don`t and keep on the way you are all will have no other choice then to ban you. So, from here on out...choose the right patch.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
    By the way for everyone that thinks wet-sanding will not void the factory warranty, call any dealership and ask them for yourself. This greatly diminishes the clear-coat, think about it your wet-sanding the top layer of the clear-coat. You then have to use a compound to buff it out. I would like to see someone take a vehicle under direct sun light as I do in lots of my videos, a few weeks later after the vehicle has been washed.


    Jeff - Like I said in my last reply, my shop has been doing warranty paint repairs for 15 different new car dealers for over a 2 decades. I am very familiar with the standards and workflows the OEM`s incorporate into doing this. I can honest way that your comment is not accurate. Yes, excessive reduction of the film build is not allowed, but there are many different levels of sanding as well as other methods for overspray and fallout removal available. I can gaurantee that blading is not a recommended workflow and is not recognized by any paint manufacturer or car company. I`m not knocking what you do, but like someone else mentioned, there are several ways to skin a cat.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
    The only reason these forums have let this go on is for free search optimization. When we have these stupid post on these sites they end up on Google search results. this is a great way for these forums to get new members at my expense.


    I would be willing to bet that this forum has not gained anything productive or respectful with this bickering. We gain membership by productive and professional discussion and problem solving. Again, I would be hopeful that you choose to benefit from this as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Suggs
    "Its not bragging if your telling the truth"


    You + Are = "You`re", not "Your". Call me a grammar nazi, but if you`re trying to make a cogent argument for your views, at least have the courtesy to check your spelling and grammar.



    I`m not belittling your technique, though I think there are some valid concerns raised in regard to how you finish out the cars (such as that big orbital you use; there`s no way it`s "removing all the swirls" as you claim in so many of your videos with you a) using a wool pad, and b) moving it too fast across the paint to let it do its work—orbitals need time), but my problem is that you keep claiming that you`re the only person on the planet using this technique. Just because you can`t find a video on youtube or a reference on the first page of your Google search doesn`t mean you`re the only person using the technique.



    You`ve found a market that needs your service and you`ve been successful, I respect that. I wish we could all be that successful. But have you ever considered that when an entire detailing community (many of which have been professional detailers and restorers for years and years) take issue with your technique, they might actually have some valid concerns?



    But hey, what do I know, right? I only have a few posts.

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    Jeff, at this point, I`ve read through several of the threads that you`ve brought up and I`ve noticed a recurring theme: you say that you want to pass your technique on, but then never disclose anything about what you`re doing with your razor blade. Could you tell us more about how you`re utilizing the blade to cut through the overspray without damaging the paint? Things like hand pressure, angle of the blade on the paint, types of blades being used, how to tell where the overspray stops and the paint begins - that sort of thing - would be useful for anyone wanting to try this technique, no?
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    The purpose of the thread is to get mediators of this forum to remove the ones from two years ago. Yes I did use those forums keywords to make the WordPress blog go to their search page. This thread was coming up on Google search results without anything from me linked to it. The reason it comes up is because you guys started linking my video to this site first. Rasky1 is the guy that started all this by linking one of my videos to this site. Then 17 of you guys put dislike on the video, before i ever thought about posting on this site. These are their comments before I ever considered making any comments about them. “supercharged”. He says, “first of all the guy is a ````, not somebody I’d trust to detail a car. Second, he is rubbing the **** out of paint with that clay bar using hardly any lube…if he likes it bone dry up his butt, that might be ok, but with the paint it’s different. And he is using a razor blade on the paint? He is defenetely a nerd…I’ve seen some dumb detailers, but this one takes the cake”. . Another member named “Minicoop832″ had this to say, “WTF a razor blade that deserves a slap on the face”. These types of post are just fine for detailingbliss to leave running for years.

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    no that is not a threat, am only stating the truth. This is why they come up with these stupid names, so they can comment without anyone really knowing who they are. This is not a professional site in the least. Its a bunch of kids that are no different then the guy that cleans my swimming pool or mows my lawn. I repair vehicles from severe overspray damage. Your jobs are to wash and wax people`s vehicles. Sometimes you may buff out some scratches, big deal. This is done by millions of folks all day long. There is nothing special about something that everyone is clearly able to do. That is why this forum is here, for the millions of people that can all do the same thing. If that were not true, then there would not be hundreds of detail shops in every town and city all over the world. I think seeing me repair vehicles like no other is just too big of a pill for some swallow. That really sounds like me bragging, but not really or you would see someone repairing auto trim, includes "textured pieces". Removing hard core water stains without using compounds or wet-sanding. Unlike you guys I have lots of videos to back up my big mouth. Someone match this work or go wash and wax someone`s car like good little boys and girls. I will never post on this site or Meguiar`sonline, and detailingbiss if the mediators of these 3 sites will end the threads so that they will not end up on search results.

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    Right...so you`re not going to answer my question then...good talk
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    I have misspelled a word or two, but everyone on this forum has. I am making a video while am posting on this site and its late and am tired from working out. The day time is for making 400 to 500 per vehicle times 4 a day for my hack work. If you would take the time to watch this video, then you will see that the orbital is only a small part of removing swirls. I first cut the vehicle by hand, then I use the portal and last the orbital. i have not seen a video from you or anyone else removing swirls, and then taking the vehicle outside. Most of all the buffer is running at just over 1000-RPMS, and am not using a compound. BC-2 is very low on the abrasive scale. Okay now lets see some of your work. Give us all a link to your Youtube or website. If your going to talk, lets see your work. If there was someone on the net or elsewhere, don`t you think after more than 3 years they would have made a video of them using a razor blade. This is the work of one of you detail guys that has videos on Youtube. I will fax any of you their invoice. I will not mention their name on the net. They did me no wrong.

 

 
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