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    Even though I have been detailing for around 20 years, I have only been on the forums for the last three or so and I can honestly say that if it wasn`t for guys posting their write ups, the quality of my work wouldn`t be where it is today. Guys posting their work showing methods, supplies and results have had a tremendous impact on how I detail. Seeing the transformations made me want to upgrade my skills and take my work to another level. I hope there will always be guys willing to take the time to do these write ups so the newbies can be inspired as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon
    I guess we could argue back and forth for a few pages on this, but I just don`t have that desire tonight Charlie



    I`m well aware this is Autopia.org, not Autogeekonline. Thanks for the heads up though


    Not quite sure where your attitude is coming from, but "Whatever you say, Flash" :noidea:
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Charles Hahn
    What`s wrong with a weekend warrior posting a CnB about their DD here? What kind of response are they "worried they will receive"?


    I`m probably more likely to check that out and post a positive comment (if it`s even remotely deserved) than most Pro C&Bs.



    I don`t care what somebody uses as long as the results are good and he`s not killing the vehicle (e.g., taking off way too much clear). When somebody who`s not a pro, or even an expert, does a nice job on a real-world driver, I myself think it`s interesting and worth checking out.



    And heh heh, I never get tired of politeness :grinno:



    But yeah...I`m the guy who`s always saying how you can`t put too much stock in internet photos. Gotta make some assumptions and, well..you know what they say

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    Quote Originally Posted by detailfanatic
    It all depends Scott, here is a pic of a single stage correction I did with my DA last week.



    that`s the good stuff right there. love seeing a regular car go from trashed to like-new

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    wow.



    I hold all the respect I can offer to the members of autopia.org and everyone in the detailing world that completes the job correctly.



    No cut and hack with a razor blade and glaze, no after photos that show more work that needs to be completed and no excuses for "it`s the lighting in the photo. in person it looks better".



    The user names, business names and people that follow up their recent works on a level beyond what "detailers" offer are the true detailers.

    The ```````ization of the title "Auto Detailer"... No point in trying to change the title for the few that complete the work correctly. They bust their asses with multiple hours of work outside a 9-5 or "shift" job.

    Works of art are completed when the work requested is not limited by the customer.



    I know i`m not on the level or a person like Shine Time, Barry Teal, Garry Dean, and soo many others that regularly post works of such caliber.

    I also know i`m not on the level or a "detailer" that will complete the work in 1 hour for $XX while claiming it will be "show car level shine".



    Thanks to sites like this, I`m somewhere in the middle.

    I can park my truck at any given location with hundreds of other cars and have it looking better than 99% of those in sight.

    A person will not understand or appreciate the work and effort taken to keep an automobile looking good until they have the education and chance to match a detailers efforts.



    I may not comment on the threads of various supercars and classics that list the hours of effort and products used, but I do appreciate the information, product presentation and before/after comparison. This helps me in selecting a product, correct use of the product and helps identify best practices for issues I may encounter keeping my own vehicles clean.



    One day I`ll post in the click n brag section, but for now the hesitation is deficient efforts to the greats mentioned above.

    Not worthy unless it`s on the same level.

    It will make a person feel good to post their efforts and receive some praise.

    The OCD people will feel good about the work completed as they snap a photo, but in reviewing the photos and seeing how much was left behind will keep them from posting such work.



    OK. Enough of that.

    Even if I dont post a response in the lastest Pro Detailer thread, you all should know there is some monkey out there looking at it with a smile saying "wow!"



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    Quote Originally Posted by detailfanatic
    It all depends Scott, here is a pic of a single stage correction I did with my DA last week.




    Nice job!



    What I am talking about is the basic level details that won`t have much correction, either because it isn`t needed or the customer won`t pay what it takes. Just not much to see most of the time, increased depth doesn`t always show up. Of course what seems to happen is that I don`t think whatever improvement there will be will show up well in a before and after and then it does. :lol When I did the Opti-Coat on that Focus, we also washed his girlfriend`s Echo and polished her headlights. I honestly thought I`d end up having to wetsand them they looked so bad. However, OHC and the test Optimum cutting pad I have took it all out almost immediately. Felt like kicking myself for not getting befores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottwax
    Nice job!



    What I am talking about is the basic level details that won`t have much correction, either because it isn`t needed or the customer won`t pay what it takes. Just not much to see most of the time, increased depth doesn`t always show up. Of course what seems to happen is that I don`t think whatever improvement there will be will show up well in a before and after and then it does. :lol When I did the Opti-Coat on that Focus, we also washed his girlfriend`s Echo and polished her headlights. I honestly thought I`d end up having to wetsand them they looked so bad. However, OHC and the test Optimum cutting pad I have took it all out almost immediately. Felt like kicking myself for not getting befores.


    Ok, my misunderstanding. Thanks for clearing that up.

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    As a weekend detailer, if and when i post any threads as far as click and brag goes, im amazed if i get more than 20 replies.



    Two of my most recent threads, which were from a while back(i dont post on here much, more of a reader and information absorber), got little to no attention. Im not trying to sound like a whiny little kid in the corner, but im kind of surprised that not many people reply and offer tips. comments, or just a cool/good job type thing. Sure, i get some replies here and there, but not nearly as many as a "pro" "fameous" detailer.



    ONE reply, 192 views

    http://www.autopia.org/forum/click-b...se-skills.html



    16 relplies(some of my own included) and 622 views.

    http://www.autopia.org/forum/click-b...-detailer.html



    12 replies, 520 views, again, some replies are my own

    http://www.autopia.org/forum/click-b...8-caliber.html





    The main reason why i joined this site was to learn how to become a better detailer for my own personal enjoyment, and to help out my friends with their cars when they need it. Its more of a hobby for me than anything else. Ive learned a LOT on here, and continue to learn. A little support from some of the "big guys" on here wouldnt hurt though.



    I do read through the click and brags, and i do post in them on occasion, but not nearly as often as i should. I think the problem is that there are SO many threads, and SO many high end cars(which are cool to look at), that people loose interest in seeing "every day" details. Cars that are driven by the soccer mom that are thrashed, etc etc. Looking at super awesome expensive supercars is cool, but i think its really missing the normal, everyday family cars and daily drivers.

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    my two cents as someone that`s only half completed his first real correction (and of which I will post in CB though..);

    There`s a lot of saturation going on. I assume 5-6 years ago, correction was a bit less known and required more tips and tricks than it does these days. Anyone (myself included) today can go out and pickup a DA and manage a pretty good correction. The perfection jobs that are down to every single last RID are more impressive imo, but you can`t really encompas that without full panroamic 10+MP photographs and a light booth. You`ve also got the internet to consider. It`s practically replacing all forms of media, so you have exponentially more competition and opportunity to show-off your work.



    So some simple math here;

    Limitless advertising + advancements in the industry make it easy for anyone to do- and do well, + dozens or even hundreds of individual sites to post up on= a degridation in the quality and response per thread. Also because the internet is *so* huge, and there are so many sites out there, chances are you won`t even get a chance to see real professionals out doing what would be considered top-tier work unless you browse multiple large sites.



    it`s not just this industry who`s been affected by the internet in this way however, everyone has. It makes sense. In a world where you have limitless opportunity to research and have an opportunity to look at every product avaliable in an entire industry, it`s hard to make anything look spectacular or stand out from the rest. The detailing industry is one of the worse from my experience in this matter however, and a partial answer to the slow-down can be found within the industry itself; how many brands out there have entire product lines? Normally in other parts of the automotive world there are clear-cut better products and lines as to where your extra money is going. paint correction is the exact opposite. There is no mathmatical forumla or review site that can sufficiently explain why a $1000 can of number 1 carbanua is superior to some OTS meguiars gold class. It`s mostly personal opinion, and the same can be said for the litertally hundreds or thousands of other APC`s, MF towels, DS`s, waxes and car washes. When there is such a selection and the answer to which is the best is which works best for you, it sort of dilutes any effectiveness that showing it off has.



    Clear case in point, I mostly wasted the better part of 5 benjimans on a large product kit from a certian manufacture.. If I had simply browsed their site like had been suggested and stayed put, I would have thought- this is as good as it gets, and I would have thought, I *do* need to spend $500 on a flex to get some of the RIDS out on my car. Instead, I found autopia, and found out that everything I thought that was `as good as it gets` is acutally pretty mediocre.

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    I can only speak for myself, but the only things i find brag-worthy are tortured restorations.



    I understand the `brag` part can include the posts that are along the lines of "look at this cool i get to work on!" But exotic threads impress me absolutely zero just because they were exotics... I mean, i know what the car is, I`ve seen it before, and just because the detailer is working on it doesnt make it any more real to me.



    But you give me a torn down piece of garbage American front drive beater from the 1990s brought back from the brink, and I`m foaming at the mouth to learn and see more.



    So Buffy`s summer roadster has swirls, big deal. Latisha`s Dodge dynasty that started looking like an extra from Madmax? Bring it on~~

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    To answer the question in the title of this thread I would say, yes, they have. I used to read CnBs because the authors explained the process and illustrated it with pictures. Now it`s just pictures and ego. And that isn`t limited to autopia. People copy/paste the same thread to every forum and in every detailing section of every forum all you read is "X detailer vs X car", open the thread to see before and afters with little to no verbiage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picus
    To answer the question in the title of this thread I would say, yes, they have. I used to read CnBs because the authors explained the process and illustrated it with pictures. Now it`s just pictures and ego. And that isn`t limited to autopia. People copy/paste the same thread to every forum and in every detailing section of every forum all you read is "X detailer vs X car", open the thread to see before and afters with little to no verbiage.


    Agreed. That`s why I try to be as detailed as possible in my own write-ups and appreciate those who do the same. I look at well written C&B threads as a way to continue learning. If it is just pictures and nothing about techniques or products, I don`t learn anything.
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    Yep. I am going to sound a little like I`m on a high horse, but I am really tired of pro detailers just posting cnbs and not offering any sort of helpful feedback to the forums they are members of. I am not referring to autopia now, mostly automotive sites whose detailing sections are littered with pros posting pictures and nothing else. I can`t count the times I`ve seen a pro join a forum just to post a cnb of a car that site is intended for just to drum up more business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 08Sunburst
    The main reason why i joined this site was to learn how to become a better detailer for my own personal enjoyment, and to help out my friends with their cars when they need it. Its more of a hobby for me than anything else. Ive learned a LOT on here, and continue to learn. A little support from some of the "big guys" on here wouldnt hurt though.


    This brings up an interesting point worth expounding upon. Different people in different situations use the C`n`B`s for a multitude of reasons. Whether it`s seeking validation, advertising, just showing off, or looking for constructive feedback/learning.



    Remembering that only some of us know each other in the real world outside of the forums, and keeping in mind that this is a public forum, it`s difficult to know how someone will react to having even constructive criticism posted in one of their write-up threads. If folks are concerned about offending the person showing off their work, they`ll shy away from commenting instead of supplying feedback or adding a disingenuous "good job!" post.



    I also don`t often read a click `n brag thread where there are questions from the person posting. Perhaps, if you want feedback on something specific, you could say "Here`s what I was able to do to _____ with x product, is there anything I can do to improve on this even more?" That way people know without a doubt that you want that kind of feedback.



    It`s just as much the responsibility of the person writing the thread to attract attention to it as it is the responsibility of the community to respond.
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