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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean-Claude
    Common dude, hook me up and throw my name in the title somewhere.


    Don`t forget to throw "3D" and hypemachine into the title too.:dance:

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    Can we get some burn the title too? I mean I just spoke to David on the phone last week..that`s gotta count for something.
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    All you moochers(of my idea) need to back off. Don`t believe the hype about being added to a title. It would only be moderately cool, but totally not worth the price. Plus Bob hasn`t said if it`s cool or not yet and if you should buy into it yet.

    ....Bob?



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    Can we get some burn the title too? I mean I just spoke to David on the phone last week..that`s gotta count for something.
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    Damn...............Detail burger has the "Omage" to the Donald on his avatar, he must really like the "Trump Tower"...............................this running up the score stuff will stop..................as soon as it is not funny which will be never. :deadhorse:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean-Claude
    All you moochers(of my idea) need to back off. Don`t believe the hype about being added to a title. It would only be moderately cool, but totally not worth the price. Plus Bob hasn`t said if it`s cool or not yet and if you should buy into it yet.

    ....Bob?






    You know what is cool? being a person who does not start threads with omissions of facts to hurt somone for thier enjoyment, the only thing "Cooler" though is the avalanche of ownage that fell on "The burgmeister aka Donald" and Mr Hype when he decided to drive the "Stupid train" onto this site.

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    There`s always that moment of enlightenment when you take a misstep and you think, "wow, I didn`t think that would happen." I wonder on what page that feeling hit?



    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Concierge
    You know what is cool? being a person who does not start threads with omissions of facts to hurt somone for thier enjoyment, the only thing "Cooler" though is the avalanche of ownage that fell on "The burgmeister aka Donald" and Mr Hype when he decided to drive the "Stupid train" onto this site.
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    OMG I just noticed the avatar changes on 2 user`s profiles hahahahaha!
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    First off - i did not change the title of this thread. Users who create threads are not able to modify the title even if you edit the first post. Try it.



    Only the owner of this site can do something like that.



    Secondly I did not change my avatar to Donald Trump. Someone moderating this site did that. Ask yourself if you think that`s professional behavior.



    What is staggering to me is that I was doing something reasonable and fair. Asking on a detail forum if a detail quote I got was a reasonable quote.



    At exactly what point should I have been "ashamed" for doing that?



    Have you ever asked for other quotes after receiving one? Yes you have.



    Would you have appreciated this type of reaction?



    Im honestly blown away by the unprofessionalism and childishness I am seeing by the moderators here...



    And David Fermani, who just sent me the most unbelievably immature text I have received from anyone over age twelve ...



    Wow. Wow.



    This guy runs a business?

















    This tells me a lot about David Fermani. Glad I am going to give my $1700 to someone else.

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    Buncha meanies
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    Now don`t you all feel ashamed?

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    Don`t you mean $350? Jus sayin`.



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    I have nothing to feel ashamed of.



    Just because someone owns a web site and can screw around with my avatar and change my thread title?



    That just reflects unprofessionalism and immaturity on their part.



    Have you ever asked around after receiving a price quote?



    Yep. You have.



    Do you feel ashamed?



    No.



    I was polite, professional, understanding, appreciative, and nice through the entire process. I did nothing wrong.



    Look at my posts again.



    Having my avatar changed by a moderator who never graduated 3rd grade?

    Receiving a harassing insulting text from Dave Fermani on my phone?



    Im ashamed on their behalf honestly.




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    Detail Burger,



    I believe the moment it started to get nasty here was this point:



    Quote: Originally Posted by dschia View Post

    Any idea how much time does detail work spend on your car?

    Detail Works had my car from 8am until about 4pm at $350 and the car looked 1,000% brand new perfection. So I guess I can use that as my guideline. That is 8 hours with most likely an hour lunch break? LOL. So 7 hours ... $350 .... is my experience, and why I am having difficulty with 20 hours $1,700.



    I think is a matter of how much time needed to get the job done rather what car cost what.

    Of course. I agree. But someone can take 40 hours to clean a car if they want to. Keep that in mind. As for how much time will be needed? Its a new car. I`ve driven it for 4 weeks. So that should give you a decent idea of how much cleaning is needed prior to the detailing. I dont want to be quoted 20 hours when it may really only need 7 hours of work. That`s why I am asking if 20 hours and $1700 is reasonable for a brand new car needing opti coat.



    Unfortunately you didn`t answer the question you quoted. Is $1,700 a fair price for what is involved?



    Please note... this is a BRAND NEW CAR. It rolled off the lot 1 month ago. It has a brand new paint job that was completed 2 months ago. This isnt a 1980 BMW that needs extensive work. Its brand new. Not a single scuff or chip on it, anywhere. The wheels are also 1 month old. Brand new. I just wanted to get my rims and paint sealed. As part of this, the items need minor cleaning and polishing from only 4 weeks of driving. Cost should not be a mystery.




    and....



    Okay well there seems to be two relevant factors here:



    1) The fact that its a brand new car

    2) The fact that I was quoted up to 20 hours of work sight-unseen.



    I should have started this thread pointing out that its a brand new car. I apologize for not doing that. Its probably the most relevant issue in my reason for asking about the price.



    Here are pictures taken of the vehicle a week or two ago. And a picture of the Wheel that needs sealing taken a day ago.



    It`s current condition.











    Is it a brand new car or just a new paint job?

    It`s both. I purchased the new car and had it painted to the color I wanted at the time of purchase. Dealer added $ to the tag price for me. Everything is 100% brand new.



    Posting a picture of the paint condition in direct light could help us better determine if it needs 20hrs of correction, regardless if it`s new or not.

    It definitely doesn`t need 20 hours of correction. But the 20 hours was for both washing, polishing, and Opti-Coating ... not just corrections.



    The *only* factor here is that I told the detailer that after a couple washes, I started noticing buffer marks from the detailer. So he is aware he will need to have those taken out, but I know from personal experience that doesn`t take very long. The car is in 1,000% perfect condition aside from this.



    I guess the real issue is I should not have been quoted sight-unseen. Anyone who gives me a price without seeing the car, and that price happens to be insanely high - makes me feel taken advantage-of. That`s why I started this thread. He tells me his price is reasonable. And when im ready to accept a reasonable price, I can contact him. Yet he`s never even seen the car and he`s quoting me 20 hours of work on it. Something does not seem right about that.




    You went from just asking, to a sort of calling out. The ABSOLUTE bottom line is, you asked David for a price, he gave you one and you can choose to take it or leave it. Research of and knowledge of products and processes is viewed as more than acceptable on autopia. But it appears that it went beyond that.
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    Lose lose from the start.
    Really? When you asked for opinions on a quote you received, or went to get another quote, was that a lose lose situation for you? I dont understand your thinking. Sorry.



    To the previous poster: It never got nasty. I was asking if the quote I got was fair. I never commented on Dave, or his ability to do good work. I intentionally did not mention Dave at all, as an act of respect to him, so that he would not feel I was trying to "out" him. Why would I mention his name? All that would do is cause trouble and negate my own goals of getting a fair quote. Obviously I was still considering working with him. Saying his name here would only put that at risk, and harm my own needs.



    The moderator changed my title thread to include Dave`s name. I didn`t.



    Apparently he feels its "funny" to cause trouble and make me look like a jerk.



    Try creating a thread and changing the title, by editing it. You can write a new title in, but it wont change what your title is on the TOPIC LIST. Try it. Only a moderator can do that. Proof that I didn`t.



    What does that tell you about Dave and the moderators here?



    Then the moderator changed my avatar to Donald Trump? Seriously? I dont even know what that means. Donald Trump? Does that imply that im wealthy? Need a better hair cut? What was the goal with that move, Mr. Moderator? Unreal ...



    Look at my posts saying thank you to everyone. I have been humble, professional, and polite. I actually felt bad for asking other opinions. I dont normally "shop around". i like to pay people what they are worth, but I have no experience in this industry, so I was asking.



    Is that unreasonble? Does that warrant nasty text messages? Changing my avatar? Dishonest conduct on the part of the moderator by changing the Title to loook like I was tryingto harm Dave? Im honestly blown away by this conduct. If I participated on this forum in the past, I would stop doing so after this. Any forum owner who does stuff like that doesnt deserve to own a forum. Just my opinion.



    I did take issue with, and debate certain principals, like whether I should pay the same as a Lambo owner. But I never took issue with Dave, got nasty, or said anything about the quality of his work. Go read my posts again. If someone edited my posts and changed my words as well as changing the title, then you know what? Screw this place. I am not going to waste another minute here. At that point, what can I do?



    In fact I thanked Marc for his counter-opinion and told him that he was "on point".



    So ... no. There is no exuse for harassing texts being sent to my phone by Dave Fermani, nor the moderator here changing my Avatar to Donald Trump. Quite honestly, I know the difference between right and wrong. And those actions far surpass "inappropriateness" .... by about a hundred miles.






 

 
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