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    Quote Originally Posted by JuneBug
    Why not put some cream on it and have the cat lick it off, cleans, non toxic, blah blah


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    How about “franchising” this superb idea of yours?



    Our new Leather Cleaning and Conditioning service is “SPCA - Approved”



    We “Cat-O-Rize” it!



    This new “breakthrough leather cleaning and conditioning technology" that is 3 in one.



    Using a special breed hybrid “Cat” that not only Clean and Condition but also Deodorize it with a unique pee that will retards and condom off all other cats that most likely will pee on it too if chance arises!





    “All great ideas may come from a seemingly foolish thought”



    I like your idea - fresh!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by judyb

    The simplest way to make it easier to clean is to protect it which will also stop dye transfer from occuring on pale leathers.



    Hope this helps


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    “Protect It”



    With what?



    Isn’t the leather 1st strata - both grain and structure is “protected” by a pigment coat - that is again “protected” by a top coat - some may be even be cross-linked to have it supper tough!



    Unless you can demonstrate that the off-market “Protector” is tougher than the original topcoat.



    In most cases, the leather surface is not well clean of residues and neutralized to leather neutral (in this case the urethane coat neutral is Not pH 7).



    We are sealing in micro layers of foreign contamination to the detriment of the leather finishes.



    Think about it, seriously.



    In such cases a non-stick buttery or silky feel condition would be a better option to reduce friction - thus reduce abrasion (less rub-off as dye transfer from apparel is reduced).



    Easily strip off with preconditions as and when needed, which reduce build-ups.



    To condom off the grain too much loses the sensuous feel of the leather - once a living skin too!



    Hey! Luxurious leather has the “skin-to-skin” contact feel - that’s why they are soo… expensive just like the “King Ranch”.



    For sensuality you want “naked leathers”, not those that has a protective layer.





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    Quote Originally Posted by David Fermani
    What`s the expert concensus on using steam to clean leather? Pros / Cons??




    Any toughts?



    How about Joy dish cleaner and a scotch brite pad?
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    I dunno - just the cream baker`s use - availible at the grocery store. So far the cats - I have a half dozen - seem to like the idea, anyway - I thought it better than tuna fish, might make the wife think i got something going on the side.



    oh - and along those lines, I`m going to that fancy underwear shop and seeing if they got some leather g-strings for the wife, never let your love life get boring, ol Jody will take your place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuneBug
    I dunno - just the cream baker`s use - availible at the grocery store. So far the cats - I have a half dozen - seem to like the idea, anyway - I thought it better than tuna fish, might make the wife think i got something going on the side.



    oh - and along those lines, I`m going to that fancy underwear shop and seeing if they got some leather g-strings for the wife, never let your love life get boring, ol Jody will take your place.




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    For your fancy underwear - play it clean!



    d`bactericide (pH 3.7) it frequent, at least sanitize (pH 3.9) it more often.



    Leather scent it too, so you known where it is located when the night is dark.



    Even your blind partner knows you`re wearing leather in broad daylight.



    So, go and enjoy your leather!



    Anyway as I often said - "the scent of leather is more leathery than the leather itself"



    Leather without this classic scent that charms is "death and stale".



    Any problem you encounter, just post it and help will be there!



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    Quote Originally Posted by David Fermani
    Any toughts?



    How about Joy dish cleaner and a scotch brite pad?


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    Like to see the MSDS before we talk about this "Joy Dish Cleaner".



    Do you mean the leather is the dish for the cat to lick off the cream (JuneBug`s great idea) - thereafter clean the leather like any other dish?



    Otherwise the "cat" will run away with the "dish" - with the tune of Hey diddle, diddle!



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    Nearly miss out the scotch brite pad!



    Please define the scotch brite pad.



    If you can’t, at least tell us the grade of abrasion or the color be it black, grey, green or white.



    I begin to enjoy the fun in this forum



    “LOL”



    And thank you David, for inviting me here!



    Very soon, I may be banned; who knows for whatever reasons.



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    Quote Originally Posted by David Fermani
    What`s the expert concensus on using steam to clean leather? Pros / Cons??


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    Well, define “steaming”.



    Do you want your leather to be steamed: rare, medium-rare or well-done.



    Have you seen the black and white old movie - Charlie Chaplin having his leather shoe for a meal with a knife and a fork?



    Yes you can steam to eat it - play it safe boil it to eat it, otherwise too rare.



    Anyway, its cowhide like any other skin it’s edible!



    When leather is in hot water, the temperature will break the hydrogen-bond between the protein fibers and the other leather constituents.



    These other leather constituents like the tanning agent, fatliquor, preservatives leach out, thus reversing the leather to rawhide again.



    And when the rawhide is cook further is then edible.





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    Just amazing...



    We should all get to know who we buy our products from!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Koh



    Please define the scotch brite pad.



    If you can’t, at least tell us the grade of abrasion or the color be it black, grey, green or white.




    White Delicate Duty



    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Koh

    I begin to enjoy the fun in this forum



    “LOL”



    And thank you David, for inviting me here!



    Very soon, I may be banned; who knows for whatever reasons.


    :xyxthumbs As long as you play by the rules and are here to help us and not you. I think you`re doing great. There`s a reason why this thread has received almost 3000 member views thus far. :kewlpics



    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Koh
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    Well, define “steaming”.



    Do you want your leather to be steamed: rare, medium-rare or well-done.



    When leather is in hot water, the temperature will break the hydrogen-bond between the protein fibers and the other leather constituents.



    These other leather constituents like the tanning agent, fatliquor, preservatives leach out, thus reversing the leather to rawhide again.


    Oh, gotcha. :think2 Many here have been insisting on the safeness(and effectiveness) of steaming leather. I get :soscared: when I hear it being mentioned.
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    Eh, I think judyb is on the right track. Keep the leather clean.

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    pH happens to be about 7 for pure water at about room temperature. It is NOT DEFINED to be 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXTASY
    Eh, I think judyb is on the right track. Keep the leather clean.


    That`s what I think, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfedwar
    pH happens to be about 7 for pure water at about room temperature. It is NOT DEFINED to be 7.


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    Can you tell us which brand of pure water has that kind of pH value, please! please!



    I have been looking for years, in vain!



    We want to have it, NOT just talk about it!



    Pure water at pH 7, very elusive!





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    Anybody ever seen this description for cleaning leather?



    Eagle Ottawa Leather Company :Leather Care

 

 
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