It sure is Kevin!! This is the place for EPIC threads. Thanks for your contribution to the history of Autopia and the advancement of Detailing.
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It sure is Kevin!! This is the place for EPIC threads. Thanks for your contribution to the history of Autopia and the advancement of Detailing.
This was a fun read. I would like to hear, now, from those who posted their thoughts at the start of this thread and what their opinions are now and how they feel about their statements from 3 years ago.:boink::popcorn:
By me moving this thread to the EPIC section speaks for itself. :happy:
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Originally Posted by Nth Degree
Heh heh, no change of opinion here, what worked then works even better now.
The newer Random Orbital-centric products just make it even easier. MF pads and products like Uno make even the original PC capable of mighty impressive correction if you go about it right.
I actually worry a little....it`s *so* easy for anybody to cut off clear while leaving an OK finish that I suspect people are gonna do a lot of overthinning.
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Originally Posted by Accumulator
Tell that to lady that cuts what`s left of my hair. :think:
(Que the large inhaling sound) ...When these new fangled non-diminishing super-micro abrasive compounds and polishes are applied with microfiber polishing discs (featuring ultra thin microfiber strands) mounted to oh-so forgiving random orbitals operated by typically intelligent folk... the cut will eventually slow or "self regulate" the more refined or polished the surface becomes (all assuming that the guy polishing the paint isn`t banking the pad at a 45 degree angle or applying enough force to blow a new set of tires on a Boeing 787 Dreamliner) .
"Fffffffffshhhhhhhhuuuuuyyyeah..!"
Meaning, because the abrasive grains are so small, they don`t leave relatively deep or errant-sized cuts in the paint surface compared to traditional diminishing abrasive compounds, as applied with stiff foam pads, or wool cutting pads. With so many particles in play and taking into consideration that the highly polished surface would put more surface area into play, the cut would slow a bit. It`s important to consider that with very small particles, they`ll load with abraded paint residue, further slowing cut.
That`s what I think. I could just be full of it, though. Certainly a possibility. :der:
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Originally Posted by Kevin Brown
But.... aren`t you the guy who advocates "edging" the pad at an angle in order to increase cut and remove deeper defects? (Granted, the qualifier is you`re talking to people who are experienced in paint correction when suggesting that....)
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Originally Posted by C. Charles Hahn
Not 45 degrees!!! :sick:
I coulda` swore I mentioned it would essentially slow the cut so long as the pad was kept level with the polishing surface, but apparently I didn`t! Oops. :knockout:
People correct paint with a random orbit? You`ve got to be kidding me. Lol
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Originally Posted by Kevin Brown
Yeah, 45 degrees is a bit of an exaggeration.
I kinda figured that`s what you meant since putting the pad toward its edge does work to increase cut instead of decreasing it, but I wanted to be sure.
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Originally Posted by C. Charles Hahn
Yup, don`t use 45 degree of tilt unless your pad & backing plate resembles an upside down 4-sided pyramid.
If it does, then you could have a go at it with another 10 degrees, perhaps. :humble:
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Originally Posted by Barry Theal
This coming from a guy that has 12 rotary polishers, including the best the world has to offer.
Festool, Fein, Flex, DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee (I suppose), and who knows what else! :drum:
Yup, some of us got the "disease" real bad. :boom:
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Originally Posted by Barry Theal
Moreso coming from a guy who converts rotary to Random orbit
:drum:
The OP`s request for opinion was based on the statement:
"You can`t cut scratches or remove swirls with a PC. You can hide them but not remove them."
To imply that you can`t cut or remove swirls with a PC is foolish. `Given your desired antidote, you CAN certainly cut scratches and remove swirls. `However, the desire to spend a significant amount of time longer removing those defects, vs other available options, `may be foolish. But if your combination is right who`s to say you`ll even spend that much more time at all. `
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Originally Posted by Blade9
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It`s more the person using the machine and their techniques rather than the machine itself.`