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    Ron and I went out this afternoon to apply the new Optimum coating on a new BMW M3.



    We started at 1:54 PM, we rinsed off the wheels, No Rinsed the paint, vacuumed, wiped down the leather, conditioned it, glass cleaned then applied the new Optimum Coating to the entire paint, lenses, jams and wheels.



    We finished at 3:05 and billed my client for $300.00



    We have another one scheduled for tomorrow plus one more maybe on Wednesday.



































    Hell of a lot easier than buffing all darn day!!

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    Hell yea! so how does it work? Any before and after pics?

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    So how is the product?
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    So really, $150 each per hour.



    I`ve been doing a lot of new cars lately, got to get my hands on some of the Optimum coating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mixxer
    Hell yea! so how does it work? Any before and after pics?




    Only after pics, the ones I posted. The car has 200 miles on it and it`s white so not much to show in way of defects.



    This was also nice because it had a full clear bra on the front fenders and half way up the hood. The roof is carbon fiber but the Optimum coating can also be applied over that.



    The main selling point of the coating is that you`re providing the client with a coating that will last at least 3 years or longer. It`s not a wax or sealant but more like a permanent additional layer of clear.



    It does not fix or fill scratches so if the paint is in bad shape then it first needs to be corrected through the traditional method of paint leveling and then the coating can be applied to seal the paint to a far greater degree than any wax or sealant.



    So we are mainly going to target new car sales with this coating. It can be applied to a new car in about 15 minutes.....say a Porsche size car......and you can charge the dealer $150.00 (an example) and they can then up sell it for $400 or more.



    If the paint needs correction then you can charge them that price PLUS an extra $150.00 for the coating. A guarantee is in the works so it can be handed to the client. It will be released soon as one more method of application is looked into and if successful it will make application even more idiot proof.



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    3 years coating huh.



    Nothing personal here but it sounds to me like one of those dealership never wax your car again scams hoping the customer isn`t smart enough to relize there is no such thing.



    But hey if you can market it and sell it to people, props to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueDetailer
    3 years coating huh.



    Nothing personal here but it sounds to me like one of those dealership never wax your car again scams hoping the customer isn`t smart enough to relize there is no such thing.



    But hey if you can market it and sell it to people, props to you.


    You`re incorrect.



    I have already tested this at 4 years. You claim there "is no such thing" but perhaps you`re thinking of a wax or sealant which this is not. This technology is actually more of a coating, in the sense of adding clear to the car.



    I respect your opinion....I would though suggest more study or research into the advances of polymer technology before making such blanket statements.



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    What would a BODY SHOP do to remove the coating to paint adjacent panels? How do you remove it?
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    So....this is nothing at all like Teflon coating? That is what the dealer "up-sold" my girlfriend and took about 15 minutes to apply. She was told that she would never have to wax her car again. Big scam. What exactly is your product and how can it be applied like another clear without any heat or baking? Sorry if I`m ignorant to all this and definitely not undermining you. Just looking for some schooling!

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    What product is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Orosco
    You`re incorrect.



    I have already tested this at 4 years. You claim there "is no such thing" but perhaps you`re thinking of a wax or sealant which this is not. This technology is actually more of a coating, in the sense of adding clear to the car.



    I respect your opinion....I would though suggest more study or research into the advances of polymer technology before making such blanket statements.



    Anthony


    Ok, so does this coating prevent a car from getting swirls,scratches,water etching,fallout,etc,etc for 3 years or more?



    The way i look at it is. A car has to be clayed & polished 1-3 times a year depending on washing methods,enviroment,driving conditions,etc,etc. Which would make using any product that lasted more then 6 months a waste. Whats the point of using a product that claims it lasts 3 or more years when it will just have to be stripped off to correct the finish. Thats why i think these never wax your car again coatings are just a scam for people who don`t know any better.



    Is there a link to this product so i can see what else is claims?

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    Clear coats dry and harden on the surface so if this stuff was exposed to air then it would dry in the bottle after a day or so if exposed to air if it`s "just like clear coat".



    Anthony, since none of us obviously know about this "new technology" and I assume you`ve done the research since you`re using it and telling us the information is obtainable, why don`t you just explain it to us.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jsatek
    What would a BODY SHOP do to remove the coating to paint adjacent panels? How do you remove it?


    It can be removed by polishing.







    Quote Originally Posted by ktorres1120
    So....this is nothing at all like Teflon coating? That is what the dealer "up-sold" my girlfriend and took about 15 minutes to apply. She was told that she would never have to wax her car again. Big scam. What exactly is your product and how can it be applied like another clear without any heat or baking? Sorry if I`m ignorant to all this and definitely not undermining you. Just looking for some schooling!




    Correct, nothing like Teflon. Teflon cannot and will not bond to any surface unless heated to a very high degree. Which is why it`s on cooking pans.



    Teflon added to certain products may increase slickness but again it cannot bond to paint by the same application of wax or sealants.



    The catalyst for this coating is air, not heat. This is not "just like your clear coat" but "like" your clear. It has been measured to add a very light film build.





    Quote Originally Posted by TrueDetailer
    Ok, so does this coating prevent a car from getting swirls,scratches,water etching,fallout,etc,etc for 3 years or more?



    The way i look at it is. A car has to be clayed & polished 1-3 times a year depending on washing methods,enviroment,driving conditions,etc,etc. Which would make using any product that lasted more then 6 months a waste. Whats the point of using a product that claims it lasts 3 or more years when it will just have to be stripped off to correct the finish. Thats why i think these never wax your car again coatings are just a scam for people who don`t know any better.



    Is there a link to this product so i can see what else is claims?




    Great questions.



    First, a car DOES NOT need to be clayed nor polished, ever really. Of course, as you noted, this depends greatly on how the car is treated, driven and stored. A car, kept as a garage queen, may never need to be waxed, especially if cared for properly.



    Secondly, it`s not yet confirmed if claying fully removes this coating. I have applied this coating to single stage paint and it appears to now hold up against polishing in the sense that very little paint is being pulled.



    Lastly, this is not geared for the general public, which is why I posted this in the professional detailer section. So being a more professional product it can be applied to a clients car and as you continue to service their car you`ll notice that it washes easier and dries super easy, when using forced air. This in turn increases your production.



    Also, let`s say that you need to polish a fender on this clients car because they got a paint transfer from a slight bumper rub. You inform them that this will remove their paint coating and you`ll replace the coating after you fix their booboo. You can then an charge them for not only the repair but also the re-application of the coating.



    In other words, this product was designed with pros in mind to help generate more income in less time. If you`re the one applying the product, therefore being paid, who cares if you need to re-apply it as you can charge them again and it takes a few minutes to apply it?





    Quote Originally Posted by JoshVette
    Clear coats dry and harden on the surface so if this stuff was exposed to air then it would dry in the bottle after a day or so if exposed to air if it`s "just like clear coat".



    Anthony, since none of us obviously know about this "new technology" and I assume you`ve done the research since you`re using it and telling us the information is obtainable, why don`t you just explain it to us.



    Josh


    Again, air is the catalyst so yes if exposed to air the product thickens. It does not have a long shelf life. It can be applied just like Opti-Seal or Clear Seal. There is no haze to buff off.



    It is applied and then it slowly evaporates. Sometimes a towel can be buffed across the surface just before it fully flashes off. This levels it all down nicely.



    It can be applied to paint, plastic, wheels (it works great on wheels) glass, carbon fiber and chrome. We have used it on trim, not the soft type but the harder type trim and so far no adverse effects. This is not a silver wonder bullet of a product but again designed with pros in mind.



    Think about it. You do a full correction for say, $400.00. This takes you several hours, some people take 2 days, and you then sell them on the coating. You can then charge them an extra $150 or $200 to apply the coating and it takes you 15 or 20 minutes. You come back next week and you`ll see that the coating can shave off some good time from your washing and drying. What`s wrong with that?



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    This Bmw looks great and the product definitely makes me curious, but after doing more research on the product, I noticed this on your website.....





    "This is why so many meticulous car owners entrust their fine automobiles with Ultimate Reflections Auto Detail. I strive to keep up to date on the latest tools, products and techniques in the detailing industry and also working closely with Dr. David Ghodoussi, paint chemist and founder of Optimum Polymer Technologies,"



    As well as a store for those products. It seems this should go against the rules to some degree, it comes off as spam to me.



    Care to respond?

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    If someone happens to sell a product the person then can not make a post using that product? Does that mean Phil from DD can`t use Swissvax stuff when he posts C&Bs, or George from DI can`t use Meznerna polishes? I see where you`re going (honest), but I don`t think this is spam (just imo, of course).
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