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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottwax
    Honestly, I don`t think Autopians are really a market for this product and no amount of hype is going to persuade someone to buy what will probably be an expensive per use product. Autopians like to mess with their finish regularly and probably aren`t all that interested in something that lasts for 3 years. Why buy a product that lasts 3 years when you like waxing your car monthly?



    Even for a pro like myself, I see a very limited market for this product. Most of my customers like to have me come out regularly and polish and wax their cars. That way, the finish on their car is constantly being refined and 3 years down the road, their car actually looks better than it did when new. I have a few customer who I may see once every year or two and they are the ones I will be asking if they are interested in a ultra long life sealant.


    Well put Scott!:waxing:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdekany
    Since I am moving to Oregon, this maybe the product that will help me to stand out from other detailers.:xyxthumbs:xyxthumbs:xyxthumbs:xyxthumbs:spot:spot:spot



    How long does it take to dry and what happens if the paint gets wet an hour after application. Can you top it with a carnauba or sealant immediately?


    It is fully cured at around 15 to 24 hours. It can get wet shortly after application but not sure I would go through washing and all until at least 24 hours.



    The product itself dries quickly, like Opti-Seal.



    It can be topped within an hour. We do go over it with OID right after the first application.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshVette
    Integrity, I think part of the problem with these threads are that they only give end results.....



    People don`t just want end results when investing money into a product, they want to know about the testing:



    When was the testing started?not a tester, just recieved a sample

    How was the car prep`d?corrected finish via rotary, OP, and white LC CCS followed by gray

    What was the process? whole car prepped as above. hood recieved the coating (2x), the rest recieved OS (2x), whole car gets OCW monthly and OID after washes

    How was the car maintained for these 3 years during the testing?just realized you didn`t mean my car, lol

    Is the car a garage queen or DD?DD but garaged at night 95% of the time

    Were any other protection products put on the car during these years?stated above

    When did it start to diminish?none so far at 4.5 months



    Seriously, why do people claim great results but then act like they don`t know about the product or the process leading up to those results. I think that is why people are bashing and calling BS. This is a good opp to bring up that, you MUST fully prep the paint to near perfection before applying this stuff. Any swirls or scratches left prior to install will require polishing thru the coating to get to the flaw later. That fact alone will ensure that this is not a "universal product."



    Josh


    Thanks for that POV Josh, I hadn`t thought of it that way. I got it, tried it, and see a use for it. I don`t know how it works, but it does. My favorite line from Tommy Boy is when Chris Farley says: I could get a better look at my steak by sticking my head up a bull`s ***, but I`d rather take my butcher`s word for it. Dr G has already proven his integrity and ethical business practices to me personally as a customer so I guess I`m not as leery as others and although I`ve only had it on my car for 4.5 months I can see that it is gonna last at least that much longer. Maybe when I`ve been on here a little while longer people will know me well enough to know why I named my business "integrity detail."

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    Man this forum has really gone downhill lately. It`s impossible to post without being called a schill. I guess I am schilling rotary work; you know, removing swirls makes me money, so...like, I`m promoting it. Ban me. Ban everyone.
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    Am I the only one who misses the pre-2005 times?

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    Anthony thanks for the update. I dont miss the pre 05 times, I didn`t know about this place then nor did I have a passion for detailing. I want to try it on my wifes car!



    FWIW It should be a requirement for everyone to READ the ENTIRE thread before posting a reply. Again thank you Anthony and Integrity

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    I have been going back and forth on this thread for a while and here is my opinion.



    Anthony, if you still sell OPT, then you are shilling (as the rules explained to me), which is why some people are likely upset. Personally, I don`t care because I respect your opinion and don`t think you are hyping anything. Hype, IMO, is not the message but the way the message is delivered. Also the thread title reads somewhat like an informerical, which can negatively set peoples opinions.



    One thing that I have learned (the hard way) is that on the internet you can only type in the lines, but you cannot keep people from reading (stuff that doesn`t exist) between the lines. 90% of human communication is from verbal tonage and body langauge, both of which are non exististant when reading words.



    I think that this coating looks promising and thank you for sharing it. I`m sure when David G(who is an absolute gentleman by the way) is ready to release the product, he will have all the questions answered. The problem with this thread is that the answers are not avialable, and thus it looks like hype. However, like I said, you have earned your reputation and I wish people would look at your character before making such harsh judgements.



    I see both sides of the coin, but considering every product that I have tried from Optimum (except for the polish which takes too long to fill, let alone correct) has been top notch. Given their proven record in cutting edge technology and your reputation, I choose to believe that this stuff is going to rock. Thanks for your post and taking the heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picus
    Man this forum has really gone downhill lately. It`s impossible to post without being called a schill. I guess I am schilling rotary work; you know, removing swirls makes me money, so...like, I`m promoting it. Ban me. Ban everyone.




    I wonder why people have an issue with this, while these same "detailers" are not questioning the prices of some of those ultra expensive carnaubas.



    Don`t people charge extra for using Zymol, or swissvax?



    PS: I believe this claim before I buy into the crystal wax durability. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bence
    Am I the only one who misses the pre-2005 times?


    Probably not the only one, but I certainly don`t.



    Autopia pre 2005 (from my memory as a lurker)



    -Nobody used wool pads and the thought was that wool was bad

    -Most click and brags were of people filling in swirl marks with polishes (done on a PC for two whole passes)

    -The few that finished with a rotary (that I remember) used abrasive pads

    -NXT was the most loved then most loathed product (those where fun threads)

    -Click and Brag was 10-15 pictures, most with exposure problems

    -Nobody really used halogens (that I recall) but a few used a brinkman

    -The before/after shots where usually one of each, with sun on different sections of the paint, in different lighting.





    What I do remember though is that site seemed more biased towards the level of detailing done vs. the type of car it was done too. However the general level of detailing was considerably lower, IMO. (Don`t read that to say that everybody was worse, but most of the work shown was to a lower standard then typical today)



    Autopia definetely has more bickering and attitude then it did (which isn`t a good thing at all) and less of the lets get along attitude (but I still remember Zaino threads going downhill, even in 2005), but autopia in 2008 has...



    -Most click and brags are far more detailed and educational then ever before. -Threads that would have gotten 50 replies in 2005 only get 10-12 now.

    -Most pro`s are using (gasp 2005) wool pads and rotary buffers. The PC ROB`s are used so much less.

    -The threads are more focused on taking the time and doing it right, vs. two passes and bragging how good it looked (in limited light) 6 hours later.

    -Carnauba wax is back on top again

    -Enthustist on the forum know seem more knowledgable then most of the guys who posted in 2005.



    Again, just my opinion, but I think that autopia is a better place now then it was back then.
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    I have only been here for a year but have been detailing for 6 years and the site has changed a noticeable amount in that year I have been here. Some for the good, some not for the good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdekany
    I wonder why people have an issue with this, while these same "detailers" are not questioning the prices of some of those ultra expensive carnaubas.



    Don`t people charge extra for using Zymol, or swissvax?



    PS: I believe this claim before I buy into the crystal wax durability. :laugh::laugh::laugh:


    For real. The entire premise of this thread and product make perfect sense to me. I am not saying I will buy it or use it (I may, who knows?), I am saying as someone who details *for a living*, which so few on here do, I am can understand how this product can make a detailer money AND at the same time may adhere to the idea of detailing we Autopians have (as in, the good kind of detailing!). I am not sure why there is so much resistance to such a product existing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TH0001



    Autopia definetely has more bickering and attitude then it did (which isn`t a good thing at all) and less of the lets get along attitude (but I still remember Zaino threads going downhill, even in 2005), but autopia in 2008 has...



    -Most click and brags are far more detailed and educational then ever before. -Threads that would have gotten 50 replies in 2005 only get 10-12 now.

    -Most pro`s are using (gasp 2005) wool pads and rotary buffers. The PC ROB`s are used so much less.

    -The threads are more focused on taking the time and doing it right, vs. two passes and bragging how good it looked (in limited light) 6 hours later.



    -Enthustist on the forum know seem more knowledgable then most of the guys who posted in 2005.



    Again, just my opinion, but I think that autopia is a better place now then it was back then.




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    Quote Originally Posted by tdekany
    I wonder why people have an issue with this, while these same "detailers" are not questioning the prices of some of those ultra expensive carnaubas.



    Don`t people charge extra for using Zymol, or swissvax?



    PS: I believe this claim before I buy into the crystal wax durability. :laugh::laugh::laugh:


    That is a very great point Thomas!:chuckle:



    How much is Crystal Rock anyway?
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    Thanks for sharing Anthony. Certainly an interesting product that looks quite promising.



    Quote Originally Posted by rydawg
    That is a very great point Thomas!:chuckle:



    How much is Crystal Rock anyway?


    $1,100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TH0001
    Probably not the only one, but I certainly don`t.



    Autopia pre 2005 (from my memory as a lurker)



    -Nobody used wool pads and the thought was that wool was bad

    -Most click and brags were of people filling in swirl marks with polishes (done on a PC for two whole passes)

    -The few that finished with a rotary (that I remember) used abrasive pads

    -NXT was the most loved then most loathed product (those where fun threads)

    -Click and Brag was 10-15 pictures, most with exposure problems

    -Nobody really used halogens (that I recall) but a few used a brinkman

    -The before/after shots where usually one of each, with sun on different sections of the paint, in different lighting.





    What I do remember though is that site seemed more biased towards the level of detailing done vs. the type of car it was done too. However the general level of detailing was considerably lower, IMO. (Don`t read that to say that everybody was worse, but most of the work shown was to a lower standard then typical today)



    Autopia definetely has more bickering and attitude then it did (which isn`t a good thing at all) and less of the lets get along attitude (but I still remember Zaino threads going downhill, even in 2005), but autopia in 2008 has...



    -Most click and brags are far more detailed and educational then ever before. -Threads that would have gotten 50 replies in 2005 only get 10-12 now.

    -Most pro`s are using (gasp 2005) wool pads and rotary buffers. The PC ROB`s are used so much less.

    -The threads are more focused on taking the time and doing it right, vs. two passes and bragging how good it looked (in limited light) 6 hours later.

    -Carnauba wax is back on top again

    -Enthustist on the forum know seem more knowledgable then most of the guys who posted in 2005.



    Again, just my opinion, but I think that autopia is a better place now then it was back then.


    That was a great post Todd!



    Autopia is a much better place...... We all just need to get along professionally let alone personally. I talk to quite a few people here and all are great bunch of people.
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