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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottwax
    Maybe, maybe not. I have a lot of customers who still want their vehicles waxed regularly even though I use sealants on their cars. Basically, they want their cars taken care of like we take care of ours.


    You took the words right out of my fingers.



    There`s a big difference between a detailed vehicle and one that is just protected.:up

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    Question. If you are using a sealant, then why is it necessary to top it with a carnauba? Would it be that there is something missing with the appearance of the sealant, that topping it with a carnauba would seem to satisfy a look that may not have been achieved??



    A very interesting question.................anyone?



    It kind of compromises the position that a sealant can outperform a carnauba product, when in fact some users feel the need to apply a "carnauba" on top of their long lasting sealant just because of a look that`s missing. Very interesting indeed......

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbls1
    Question. If you are using a sealant, then why is it necessary to top it with a carnauba? Would it be that there is something missing with the appearance of the sealant, that topping it with a carnauba would seem to satisfy a look that may not have been achieved??



    A very interesting question.................anyone?




    Since not everyone applies a carnuaba over a sealant, there could be many factors why:



    Which sealant one is using.



    Desired appearance



    Something to do until the sealants wears off



    Use up an expensive product that been collecting dust



    A change of scenery........



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    Hmmmm



    So my rickety, rackety, bleached `nuba flakes are old and outdated, and your (chuckle) sealant is the new end all product that outlasts all nubas, is what`s said to me in public.



    I turn my back, walk away, and then people pull out the Frosted Flakes..........for a `nuba taste that "You can never outgrow"....



    It just brings a chuckle to my throat somehow......

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbls1
    Hmmmm



    So my rickety, rackety, bleached `nuba flakes are old and outdated, and your (chuckle) sealant is the new end all product that outlasts all nubas, is what`s said to me in public.



    I turn my back, walk away, and then people pull out the Frosted Flakes..........for a `nuba taste that "You can never outgrow"....



    It just brings a chuckle to my throat somehow......




    I wouldn`t worry about what other people use as long as whatever product you use meets your appearance and protection desires. I used carnuaba products for over 35 years and they always served my needs for vehicle care.

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    Oh I`m not, believe me. My `Nuba Works!!!



    I just can`t help getting a kick out of all of the twists of this thread. I am actually having fun reading this stuff!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbls1
    Question. If you are using a sealant, then why is it necessary to top it with a carnauba? Would it be that there is something missing with the appearance of the sealant, that topping it with a carnauba would seem to satisfy a look that may not have been achieved??



    A very interesting question.................anyone?



    It kind of compromises the position that a sealant can outperform a carnauba product, when in fact some users feel the need to apply a "carnauba" on top of their long lasting sealant just because of a look that`s missing. Very interesting indeed......
    I fail to understand how a Nuba topped sealant, can change its appearance. I just dont get it. And before someone tells me something scientific, have some back up. Because I dont fall for it gentlemen. How can a nuba do anything to depth or warmth or whatever it is you want to call it, when the paint is sealed with a synthetic? The Nubas do not penetrate the synthetics barrier. All I see happening is whatever color wax your using temporarilly optically alters the appearance, and its very short lived.

    I judge a paints appearance by approx 3 items.

    Clarity (lack of light altering imperfections, a.k.a scratches/swirls, oxidation)

    Color (this is what I would call depth, and its only attainable through cleaning/polishing the clear coat, revealing a virgin color coat.)

    Reflectiveness (What does the polish and sealant combo your using, actually provide/attain, how sharp and crisp does it appear, 90% polish, 10% protective barrier)

    Maybe I just know what to look for, but not quite how to explain it here..............lol
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    Then my counter question is this, and original question remains........



    If topping with a carnauba doesn`t change the appearance of a sealant`s finish, then why would a carnauba be used on top of it in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbls1
    Then my counter question is this, and original question remains........



    If topping with a carnauba doesn`t change the appearance of a sealant`s finish, then why would a carnauba be used on top of it in the first place?
    My simple answer, I have no idea! Why would anyone? I just dont see any significance of doing so. And thats why I use synthetics......Im with you in your query.....
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    My point exactly. Thanks. An LSP is supposed to render the finish (aside from the obligatory prep work) all by itself, whether its a sealant or a carnauba. The combination of the two IMO will not parallel the correct use of either media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbls1
    Then my counter question is this, and original question remains........



    If topping with a carnauba doesn`t change the appearance of a sealant`s finish, then why would a carnauba be used on top of it in the first place?


    I use a carnauba wax on top of Klasse because I like the way it beads water.

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    Thats understandable............
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    Well here`s another question.....why are most top concourse winners users of carnauba?



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    I want to say what I`m thinking........but I won`t. I respect both media (at least in this thread). I`m having fun at the moment anyways, so why spoil it????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Orosco
    Well here`s another question.....why are most top concourse winners users of carnauba?



    Anthony


    A simple answer could be tradition and the other would be the way SS paints re-act to carnuaba and its oils. :nixweiss

 

 
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