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    That`s because people keep bringing it up again! Every time someone in this thread says "great, no more ZFX!" someone else says "what are you complaining about, ZFX is not trouble" and off we go again. And I thought you anti-"xxxxx-xxx" guys had your own place to complain about him?

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    I had a bad experience with a major detail supply vendor over a year ago. I will never shop with them again, but you don`t see me posting in every thread that the place is mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmblack3a
    I had a bad experience with a major detail supply vendor over a year ago. I will never shop with them again, but you don`t see me posting in every thread that the place is mentioned.


    And that means what? I happen to think Zaino is one of the best products I have ever used, and if I didn`t have a hundred others, maybe it would be the only product I use. But I don`t feel that my manhood is threatened because some guy on an internet forum doesn`t think it`s "all that" and doesn`t want to mess with mixing bottles. As Eliot said, why do you guys take it so personally that one or two people say they think the ZFX process is inconvenient? We actually do believe you when you say that you don`t find it inconvenient.



    I use shaving cream and a razor...some people use an electric. I never could get comfortable with the electric...I found it irritating (yes, even after that acclimation period that Norelco wanted me to go through...). Do you guys who shave with an electric hate me? Am I stupid for not using one? Am I trashing them by saying that an electric razor wasn`t comfortable for me, that I didn`t really see the convenience of it for my lifestyle? I bet they wouldn`t like me over at the Electric Razor Club forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
    And that means what? I happen to think Zaino is one of the best products I have ever used, and if I didn`t have a hundred others, maybe it would be the only product I use. But I don`t feel that my manhood is threatened because some guy on an internet forum doesn`t think it`s "all that" and doesn`t want to mess with mixing bottles. As Eliot said, why do you guys take it so personally that one or two people say they think the ZFX process is inconvenient? We actually do believe you when you say that you don`t find it inconvenient.



    I use shaving cream and a razor...some people use an electric. I never could get comfortable with the electric...I found it irritating (yes, even after that acclimation period that Norelco wanted me to go through...). Do you guys who shave with an electric hate me? Am I stupid for not using one? Am I trashing them by saying that an electric razor wasn`t comfortable for me, that I didn`t really see the convenience of it for my lifestyle? I bet they wouldn`t like me over at the Electric Razor Club forum.


    It means that when people say that this vendor has great customer service and I think the customer service sucks, I don`t post about it.



    Kind of simple, at least it is to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmblack3a
    It means that when people say that this vendor has great customer service and I think the customer service sucks, I don`t post about it.



    Kind of simple, at least it is to me.


    That seems sort of off topic, even for this thread. Unless you`re trying to imply that a certain member keeps posting to bash the mfr. whose name is in the thread title, without actually saying that. Not that anyone seems to have an agenda here (ahem).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmblack3a
    It means that when people say that this vendor has great customer service and I think the customer service sucks, I don`t post about it.



    Kind of simple, at least it is to me.




    Very well said.



    If I don`t like zfx, or brand x,y,z... etc... I may state my opinion `1` time, and move on.



    Some feel compelled to post about it "again and again".... Why?



    I`ll stop. We`re off topic.



    Let`s get back on track and discuss CS, OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
    That seems sort of off topic, even for this thread. Unless you`re trying to imply that a certain member keeps posting to bash the mfr. whose name is in the thread title, without actually saying that. Not that anyone seems to have an agenda here (ahem).


    Of course it is somewhat OT, as I was trying to compare a similiar situation. If its a process or the way you where treated, you where not happy. Like I said I choose not to post in threads about this vendor.



    I am comfortable with the opinion that no one in this thread has an agenda.
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    John, Do you think for the ultimate durability 2-3x of Z5pro w/ ZFX and CS or would ZAIO/ 1xZ5pro and CS be fine?
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    How about that z-aio?:grinno:

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmblack3a
    John, Do you think for the ultimate durability 2-3x of Z5pro w/ ZFX and CS or would ZAIO/ 1xZ5pro and CS be fine?


    Z-AIO is probably the `least` durable product, but on par with any carnauba that I`ve ever used.



    CS over `bare` paint protects as well as a coat of Z2Pro or Z5Pro.



    1 step up from that.... Z-AIO topped with CS.



    If you top zfx`d Z2Pro or Z5Pro with CS, you`re adding (at a minimum) 50% to durability based on my uses.



    Z-AIO and CS will be incorporated into many of my details this year. It really is an AWESOME combo, and the `look` is right there. I`m surprised that Z-AIO hasn`t been discussed more, because it`s a very impressive product IMO.

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    let`s say if I had z-5 on my car for a couple of months and I had some light marring to clear up, would zaio take care of this easy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydawg
    let`s say if I had z-5 on my car for a couple of months and I had some light marring to clear up, would zaio take care of this easy?


    Z-AIO will remove your `Z5` topper. It cleans the `slate` so to speak.



    Based on my uses, Z-AIO cleans/glosses paint much more so vs. removing defects.



    Z-AIO will take care of `fine` marring, but by no means is it a SMR.



    As an example......



    I`ve had great success using Z-AIO on water spots, clouded head-lights, and neglected `dull` paint.



    Does that make sense?

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    sounds great! Thanks!



    Now can CS be used on some plastic trim and maybe under the engine compartment pieces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydawg
    sounds great! Thanks!



    Now can CS be used on some plastic trim and maybe under the engine compartment pieces?


    CS works well on flat/finished plastic trim.



    This holds true under the hood too

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    Thanks John! I can`t wait for them to be sold. I love how most of the zaino products don`t leave any residue on the trim, it actually makes it shine. I use z8 on my plastic trim and it looks amazing!!!!!



    Thanks again for the help! It was your past posts that made me try zaino. That tahoe looks wetter everytime you take a new pic of it

 

 
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