Breaking Zaino news...

**Spilchy** · 01-09-2007, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by gmblack3a

Maybe you should ask over there?

Yeah, last time I posted I was accused via PM from one of their moderators that I had an "agenda." A couple of my posts were deleted. So stupid. So I stopped posting.

Plus I don`t use Zaino so that forum has nothing to offer me.

**ZaneO** · 01-09-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by RCBuddha

So let me see if I have this correct, the new process for Z with the new products would be:

Z7 wash

Clay

ZPC / ZAIO / Z1 (depending on severity of defects)

Z2 / Z5 (with ZFX if you want to add more than one layer on the same day)

Z6 (to remove smudges/light dust)

Z8 or CS (to refresh the Z2/Z5)

Does that order seem correct?

You got it.

**Scottwax** · 01-09-2007, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by SilverLexus

Scott, you should try Z-5Pro. Without first hand knowledge, you may not be aware how wet things can look with Zaino. It looks terrific on black.

I had no problems with how wet Z2 Pro looks, I just give a slight edge to Werkstatt, that`s all. When Z5 Pro works fine without ZFX, I`ll be the first to try it.

**imported_DieselMDX** · 01-09-2007, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Scottwax

I had no problems with how wet Z2 Pro looks, I just give a slight edge to Werkstatt, that`s all. When Z5 Pro works fine without ZFX, I`ll be the first to try it.

is it the cost or pain of using ZFX that you do not like?

**ZaneO** · 01-09-2007, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Spilchy

I love how the "No Pictures Policy" (and all the flack they gave/give Autopia for it) flew out the window with that thread, or did the policy change? :p But, if its for Zaino I guess there`s an exception to every rule

Well, to be fair, they changed their picture policy in June to allow pictures of personal vehicles, but I do realize that there are several vehicles pictured in that thread that are not personal vehicles.

Pictures that demonstrate a process have always been allowed.

I agree that the rules should be consistent.

**Scottwax** · 01-09-2007, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by DieselMDX

is it the cost or pain of using ZFX that you do not like?

Just the fact I have to use it at all. I don`t buy glues that have to be mixed either. Cost is the biggest issue when I can use other products that don`t need an accelerator. Plus, I am not into layering so the ability to apply 3 layers in one detailing session doesn`t matter to me.

**PINITI** · 01-09-2007, 06:14 PM

Hey Scott, you may have missed this good news from the last page: :up

Originally Posted by Scottwax

As long as there is a ZFX requirement for the first application of Z5 Pro, I won`t be using it anyway. ... I like the products but that pesky ZFX requirement keeps me from loving them. ... When Z5 Pro works fine without ZFX, I`ll be the first to try it.

Originally Posted by PINITI-FX

For those of us who also feel this way, I hope this might be helpful ... DetailersClub

... with the New Z-AIO as a base, ZFX is Not Needed for Single applications of Z-2P OR Z-5P! ... edit: nevermind, I just realized ...

**imported_GregCavi** · 01-09-2007, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by RCBuddha

So let me see if I have this correct, the new process for Z with the new products would be:

Z7 wash

Clay

ZPC / ZAIO / Z1 (depending on severity of defects)

Z2 / Z5 (with ZFX if you want to add more than one layer on the same day)

Z6 (to remove smudges/light dust)

Z8 or CS (to refresh the Z2/Z5)

Does that order seem correct?

Yes that order would work, but because the CS has incredible durability from one application, you could cut out the Z5pro or Z2pro and do:

Z7 wash

Clay

ZPC / ZAIO / Z1 (depending on severity of defects)

Z6 (to remove smudges/light dust)

CS

CS is definitely not a booster or spray wax, but instead a long lasting sealant with durability exceeding that of Z5pro and Z2pro.

Greg

**RCBuddha** · 01-09-2007, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by GregCavi

CS is definitely not a booster or spray wax, but instead a long lasting sealant with durability exceeding that of Z5pro and Z2pro.

Interesting. So its more like AJT then (CS being a full fledged sealant).

I`d love to see a Prime + AJT vs. ZAIO + CS durability test. Hmmmmm....Picus, you up for it?

**Scottwax** · 01-09-2007, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by PINITI-FX

edit: nevermind, I just realized ...

:LOLOL I guarantee I am not welcome there.

Interesting information though.

**imported_memnuts** · 01-09-2007, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by GregCavi

CS is definitely not a booster or spray wax, but instead a long lasting sealant with durability exceeding that of Z5pro and Z2pro.

Greg

Where did this statement come from Greg?:shocked

Let not over-state what CS is or isn`t until we have many real-world experiences.

Z2/5PRO will always be the staples of the Zaino system. Do not play these 2 items short.:bolt

**imported_GregCavi** · 01-09-2007, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by blkZ28Conv

Where did this statement come from Greg?:shocked

Oops, Sorry about that, a little overzealous on my part. Only more time will tell the verdict of z5pro vs. ZCS.

Originally Posted by blkZ28Conv

Z2/5PRO will always be the staples of the Zaino system. Do not play these 2 items short.:bolt

Let not over-state what CS is or isn`t until we have many real-world experiences.

Your absolutely right :hifive:

Greg