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    "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    When people talk about whether they prefer the "sealant look" vs a "carnauba look", what exactly are the characteristics of each?

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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    I think you will get a lot of different answers for this. I think generally speaking, the "sealant look" is shiny and sterile and the "carnauba look" is deep and wet looking. Obviously, just because something is a wax or sealant, doesn`t mean it will look a certain way. A lot of sealants actually are made to "look" like a carnauba wax.

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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    I read all the time that a sealant looks sterile so I put Pinnacle Souveran paste wax on the door of my show car and did the rest of it with DG 105 and took it to a show and a lot of people looked at it but could not tell me where the wax was.

    The better sealants to me look as good as a wax but last longer and are easier to apply and remove.
    They last much longer and usually cost less.

    I see wax as like a model T Ford good for it`s time but that time is gone.

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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    While sealants have definetly taken hold and have caught up so to speak on their final appearance on a vehicle, I still notice at least by my eye a darker slightly deeper look of paint with carnuba waxes...
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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    I think it really has to do with the color of your car as far as " looks " go.. Metallic paints look better with sealants but dark or solid colors ( except white) tend to "look" better with wax.
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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    thanks guys.

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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by Poorboy View Post
    I think it really has to do with the color of your car as far as " looks " go.. Metallic paints look better with sealants but dark or solid colors ( except white) tend to "look" better with wax.
    Yes I can see a slight difference but it seems most people can`t.

    I still occasionally use a wax on my DD but my last foray into wax on the vette was a few years back and I swore never again.

    I bought a wax called Formula 104 this stuff was hyped as being the end all in wax. I put it on in my garage and it looked pretty good not any better than a lot of others would but it looked OK.

    The next morning I went to a show In Indianapolis that is about 75 miles from my home so when I got their I had a good bit of dust on the car.

    The sun was shining Brite and the show was at a Chevy dealer no shade trees had to park in the sun.
    I sprayed the hood with QD and started wiping it but the hood turned brown and was streaked and smeared.

    Problem was the wax had become soft from the heat and instead of removing the dirt I just embedded it in the soft wax and smeared it around.

    I did what I could but it looked like crap and I knew that I was not going to win.

    I was right I did not get in the top 30 but they did call me for Best Engine award thank god the wax had not screwed that part up.

    I guess everyone on here does all their detailing at home in the shade so they do not have to contend with these problems.

    Try parking in the sun on a 90F degree day and wax your car sometime .
    With a sealant I have none of these problems

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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by black bart View Post

    Try parking in the sun on a 90F degree day and wax your car sometime .
    With a sealant I have none of these problems
    Excellent point about wax, it has a melting point of I believe about 150 - 180 degrees, which on a black car, in the summer, under direct sun it probably gets to that point...

    Someone correct the temperature if I am wrong, I am trying to think back...

    I am not sure the melting point of a sealant...although I imagine its much higher...
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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by black bart View Post
    I guess everyone on here does all their detailing at home in the shade so they do not have to contend with these problems.

    Try parking in the sun on a 90F degree day and wax your car sometime .
    With a sealant I have none of these problems
    we wax in the sun on those types of days at shows every year and our last two detailing days events were on 90* + days and most people were working in the sun
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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by Poorboy View Post
    we wax in the sun on those types of days at shows every year and our last two detailing days events were on 90* + days and most people were working in the sun
    Are you calling your sealant a wax

    I want to be clear on this because like Sal calls his sealant polish so we sometimes get confused with the terminology used.

    NXT Sealant is called wax

    Just what WAX are you using in that temp.
    It has always been my understanding that Carnuba will melt at about 180F.
    A Black car parked in the sun will exceed that .

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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by black bart View Post
    Are you calling your sealant a wax

    I want to be clear on this because like Sal calls his sealant polish so we sometimes get confused with the terminology used.

    NXT Sealant is called wax

    Just what WAX are you using in that temp.
    It has always been my understanding that Carnuba will melt at about 180F.
    A Black car parked in the sun will exceed that .
    No I don`t call sealants wax... we demo all three Natty`s (Red, White, & Blue) as well as PwC (white & Blue) on hot surfaces in the sun and when we are at the shows and I have help we often go directly to a participants vehicle with them for a demonstration. ...ps some waxes do have higher melting points
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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by Poorboy View Post
    No I don`t call sealants wax... we demo all three Natty`s (Red, White, & Blue) as well as PwC (white & Blue) on hot surfaces in the sun and when we are at the shows and I have help we often go directly to a participants vehicle with them for a demonstration. ...ps some waxes do have higher melting points
    I take it that you are not talking about Carnuba but something else.
    If it works that is ok by me I`m not hung up on Carnuba

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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by black bart View Post
    I take it that you are not talking about Carnuba but something else.
    If it works that is ok by me I`m not hung up on Carnuba
    yes, we are talking carnauba
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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    yes, we are talking carnauba

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    Re: "Sealant look" vs "Carnauba look" - please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by black bart View Post
    yes, we are talking carnauba
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