Glazes a Misunderstood Term / Product??

[Beemerboy]

I read all the time about glazes, some mfgers use this term when implying about there SWR or polishes. Then you have a glaze that are used after polish as a gloss enhancer.

I feel at times that this is one of the most misused term in the industry, and can create confusion.

The term glaze to me is the later of the two that I listed...gloss enhancer, it has noting to do with SWR or polish.

Then you have your glazed donuts but that`s another subject


What is the general thoughts on this?

Thanks

[jaybs02]

Glazed doughnuts

[rabbi]

Glaze means gloss/wet enhancer.

My opinion is when I want my car to look it`s absolute best this is the process I use.
Wash+clay+polish+glaze+seal+wax.

[Beemerboy]

Glazed doughnuts

I knew I shouldn`t have mentioned those

[CharlesW]

To me a glaze is an enhancer.
Usually with no protection. Just an appearance booster.

Your use of them under sealants surprises me since I felt that most glazes had oils or fillers that would keep the sealants from bonding.

While I have used some glazes in the past, I don`t use any at this time and really don`t see their place in my process.

Charles

[Beemerboy]

To me a glaze is an enhancer.
Usually with no protection. Just an appearance booster.

Your use of them under sealants surprises me since I felt that most glazes had oils or fillers that would keep the sealants from bonding.

While I have used some glazes in the past, I don`t use any at this time and really don`t see their place in my process.

Charles

Charles I have not had any bonding issues with sealants on the glaze that I use FK1

I do agree that a glaze is a gloss booster

[hemin8r]

I agree with all of the above

[cwcad]

Have read of many who applaud the use of glazes. It was was one process to many for me. Mostly I did not see an appearance difference in the final look of my vehicles. I have been bitten by many of the usual hype trips these past years but glazes does not seem to be one of them.

[kimwallace]

I use Meguiars, Machine Glaze #3 with a rotary ... It is listed as having an abrasive level of #1, which is the lowest of their polishes. If worked in well, it will actually remove minor swirls and micro marring. I feel the best results from this glaze are on darker colored paints. on lighter colors I can achieve more wetness and better clarity using Poorboys SSR1 with a PC prior to applying a LSP. I have not noticed any difference in LSP ( Sealants) durability when using this glaze. My only complaint is that the Machine Glaze is more difficult to remove than SSR1.

[Beemerboy]

I use Meguiars, Machine Glaze #3 with a rotary ... It is listed as having an abrasive level of #1, which is the lowest of their polishes. If worked in well, it will actually remove minor swirls and micro marring. I feel the best results from this glaze are on darker colored paints. on lighter colors I can achieve more wetness and better clarity using Poorboys SSR1 with a PC prior to applying a LSP. I have not noticed any difference in LSP ( Sealants) durability when using this glaze. My only complaint is that the Machine Glaze is more difficult to remove than SSR1.

Kim

This is the confusing part of the term glaze to the average person...the Megs product you listed has a mild abrasive, yet the pink hand glaze by FK1 or 3m Imperial hand glaze have none..they are completely two different products but yet bare the same name.

[kimwallace]

Kim

This is the confusing part of the term glaze to the average person...the Megs product you listed has a mild abrasive, yet the pink hand glaze by FK1 or 3m Imperial hand glaze have none..they are completely two different products but yet bare the same name.

I Agree,
I used hand glazes many years ago when working on single stage paints. The Machine Glaze has the same filling/gloss enhancing properties as the hand glazes but with the added abilities of a final polish, so it can actually eliminate a polishing step and give the benefit of a glaze. I do wonder though how much of the polishing is actually produced by the pad. I am not trying to hype the product, but just add to the information or should I say ... confusion???

[Beemerboy]

I Agree,
I used hand glazes many years ago when working on single stage paints. The Machine Glaze has the same filling/gloss enhancing properties as the hand glazes but with the added abilities of a final polish, so it can actually eliminate a polishing step and give the benefit of a glaze. I do wonder though how much of the polishing is actually produced by the pad. I am not trying to hype the product, but just add to the information or should I say ... confusion???

Confusion is what it is...not for me but for the average joe

[CharlesW]

I use Meguiars, Machine Glaze #3 with a rotary ... It is listed as having an abrasive level of #1, which is the lowest of their polishes. If worked in well, it will actually remove minor swirls and micro marring. I feel the best results from this glaze are on darker colored paints. on lighter colors I can achieve more wetness and better clarity using Poorboys SSR1 with a PC prior to applying a LSP. I have not noticed any difference in LSP ( Sealants) durability when using this glaze. My only complaint is that the Machine Glaze is more difficult to remove than SSR1.

Meguiar`s #80 Speed Glaze is another of the meguiar`s products called a glaze that to me is a polish.
It`s another Meg`s product that seems to do a good job, but I wouldn`t feel comfortable using it just prior to a sealant. Finishing it with a wax would be fine, though.

FWIW, I wonder if the "Body Shop Safe" label for some of the Meguiar`s products would indicate that the product would be suitable for use as a prep for a sealant?

Charles

[jaybs02]

Now that I`m done with the glazed doughnuts.
My notion of of a glaze is something that enhances appearance not something that does correction. I know that the older glazes were loaded with oils and such to give cars that wet look but wouldn`t work well with sealants, but I think that some of the newer glazes are designed to work with sealants. I know that with VM, it gives me a wet look and no bonding issues with the sealants that I have used on it.

"J"

[Bunky]

I think Mothers glaze step in their 3 step "solution" (cleaner/polish, sealer/glaze, pure wax) fits the true definition.