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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogma View Post
    I just used the new 303. application was easy, gloss is insane. Next I am going to try it over IGL F4.
    Def give that a go would be interesting

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Is it bad I want to polish off my graphene coating for cquartzSIC

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

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    Is it bad I want to polish off my graphene coating for cquartzSIC
    I don`t have anything to polish off, but I`m looking forward to giving it a try too. I`ve recently coated two vehicles with TiO2 and it was a good experience with great results, so I`m interested to see what their new product is like.
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by William_Wallace View Post
    Is it bad I want to polish off my graphene coating for cquartzSIC
    Not in the least.
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertnate View Post
    I don`t have anything to polish off, but I`m looking forward to giving it a try too. I`ve recently coated two vehicles with TiO2 and it was a good experience with great results, so I`m interested to see what their new product is like.
    I really like the Cquartz coating they always looked better gloss wise comparing to a mohs or csl or HPC 22ple. Could just be my eyes
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    What you said is very true in that there are “non-pros” who could provide a solid coating application but I think there is a larger number of those who aren’t pros and think they can provide the same type of service and results than there are that actually can.

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

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    What you said is very true in that there are “non-pros” who could provide a solid coating application but I think there is a larger number of those who aren’t pros and think they can provide the same type of service and results than there are that actually can.
    im not sure what camp I fall into but real chemist must get a good laugh from reading our threads on products and the little bit we know about what is in these product to make products bead or have long durability

    if there was chemistry course relating only to detail products that would be interesting
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Here are some reasons/criteria for using any Last-Step Product (LSP): (I had posted list of reasons somewhere before, but I could not find it, so this list is to my best "recollection"), not in any particular order:
    1) Reflectivity or gloss (AKA exterior surface appearance)
    2) Resistance to environmental fallout or debris (AKA, Protective properties against bird dropping, bug etching, acid rain etching, rain water spotting, UV fading-resistance)
    3) Self-cleaning properties
    4) Hydrophobic properties (AKA, water beating or sheeting)
    5) Longevity (How long it last before requiring re-application)
    6) Ease of application and removal (may require special application pads or removal clothes AND/OR curing UV lights)
    7) Compatibility with other manufacturer`s products (especially after compound/polish correction)
    8) Special post-application care (coating and required wash-soap types)
    9a) Initial cost (product cost)
    9b) Cost per application (also includes product size availability)
    10) Product availability (Over-the-counter, boutique, certified-installer/dealer only)
    11) Warranty with product (coatings)
    12) Product shelf life (important to a hobbyists who may use the LSP for a few cars in a year, but had to make major investment in buying some "larger" quantity of an quality-LSP to get a cost-effective price)
    13a) Manufacturer`s product reputation
    13b) Experience with manufacturer`s products

    So which of these properties/characteristics/criteria does graphene have over other LSP`s and is it cost-effective to use?
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by William_Wallace View Post
    im not sure what camp I fall into but real chemist must get a good laugh from reading our threads on products and the little bit we know about what is in these product to make products bead or have long durability

    if there was chemistry course relating only to detail products that would be interesting
    I would take the class if it were taught by Optimum Polymer Technologies` owner Dr. David Ghodoussi. There is a true car-care product chemist and developer!!

    Chemically related to this thread topic:
    1) What exactly IS graphene?
    2) Why was it developed and for what purpose?
    3) How did it end up in car-care products?
    4) Are there any possible long-term negative effects/impacts on the environment or personal health? (I just threw this in there for the "Fake News Media" to say it is the leading cause of Global Warming or the major reason for the recent COVID-19 infection-rate resurgence!)
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

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    Graphene Tire Dressing
    Given that the claims of graphene are mostly centered around reduced water-spotting, how in the heck would that improve a tire coating/dressing? This one looks like a real stretch as far as `graphene is better` goes. Appears to be a nice example of "Slap the word graphene on everything!".
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogma View Post
    I just used the new 303. application was easy, gloss is insane. Next I am going to try it over IGL F4.
    My brother gave me a bottle, I`m probably going to try it in the next week or two. Just want to strip everything on it first so I know how well it works and what it`s like. Reviews seem favorable so far, but I`m wondering if it has any advantage over Seal N Shine.

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
    Given that the claims of graphene are mostly centered around reduced water-spotting, how in the heck would that improve a tire coating/dressing? This one looks like a real stretch as far as `graphene is better` goes. Appears to be a nice example of "Slap the word graphene on everything!".
    Like the picture shows..the Adams graphene tire coating will make your tires look like carbon fiber.
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    When it comes to tire products you can keep your graphene. I want Vantablack tire dressing!

    https://www.bmw.com/en/design/the-bm...black-car.html
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
    Given that the claims of graphene are mostly centered around reduced water-spotting, how in the heck would that improve a tire coating/dressing? This one looks like a real stretch as far as `graphene is better` goes. Appears to be a nice example of "Slap the word graphene on everything!".
    I don`t see the benefit of it. Their video said this tire dressing will make it to the next wash. That does not sound too impressive.
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