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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quick update but unfortunately Graphene is not going to be the miracle product we all wanted it to be when it comes to water spotting.

    Will post photos and video in a bit.
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    As promised. If we look at the included pamphlet that comes with SPS they clearly state decreases water spot prevention but at the same time water spot prevention.





    Unfortunately that is not the case. It appears that water spotting is still going to happen. My hood is peppered in water spots in various areas in various sizes. I was only able to see them under the garage lights. After I finished the video, I took some CarPro Sportless and Optimum MDR and neither of them did anything. Although they never really work that well.


    I am one month in with SPS graphene on the paint and topped with the graphene dpray detailer after the first wash.


    Examples of what I am referring to.











    Forensic detailing also posted a video on his channel with similar results on the art de shine graphene coating covered in water spots.


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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Thanks for the update Mike! I`ve always been a bit curious as to the water spot resistance claims of coatings from different chemists and manufacturers. Would like to know how they`re setting their testing up to observe this resistance, and baselining that against a control section. I don`t think I`ve ever seen any of the coatings that I`ve worked with provide a clear resistance advantage against spot etching.
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Would like to know if you have any experience Artdeshine`s Metal Oxide Coating made with ATO (Antimony Tin Oxide). i was wondering since this metal based coating vs SIO2 thta it might not have a water spot issue. Would great if can undergo the torture car long term testing. thanks for your videos and methodical studies. Rick

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by FunctionalDoc View Post
    Would like to know if you have any experience Artdeshine`s Metal Oxide Coating made with ATO (Antimony Tin Oxide). i was wondering since this metal based coating vs SIO2 thta it might not have a water spot issue. Would great if can undergo the torture car long term testing. thanks for your videos and methodical studies. Rick
    I have no experience with that coating. It is on the list of future coatings to try.
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    As most of you know very shortly into it I decided not to rep the SPS line. I still use the line and really like the products. Nothing is going to 100% resistant to water spotting, especially when you look at some of the sources of water that can get on the surface.

    My water at 220 PPM has spotted it, I wasn’t doing a side by side test so I don’t know how much less spotting if any occurred. When I run my water through a portable water softener and can get it down to about 30 PPM. At 30 PPM I washed my car in high noon full Texas sun and the light spots that were left after air/sun drying wiped right off. 30 PPM I believe would be pretty similar to rain water and environmental deposits.

    I have seen a side by side water spot test against a well known ceramic and there was more than a slight difference, I would say in the neighborhood of 70% difference. I will definitely pass this on to Brett and I’m sure tests will be done to support the claim with photo/video documentation or I’m pretty sure the claim will be removed. The statements about what will possibly happen are strictly my opinion based on knowing Brett.

    Thank you for the honest input Mike, I appreciate and I’m sure a Brett will as well. I’m not on here much these days but if I get any feedback I’ll try to pass it along. Have any of you other guys had any issues with water spotting or anything else?
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Adams is getting into the Graphene game.

    Possibly a relabeled exhausting product?

    I donít think graphene is game time ready and itís not ready to dethrone current ceramic coatings. These are just my current observations and opinion.

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    makes my decision of recently coating the wife`s new Mazda with CQUK 3.0 even more satisfying.

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by bodidly22 View Post
    makes my decision of recently coating the wife`s new Mazda with CQUK 3.0 even more satisfying.
    You made a great choice. CQUK 3.0 is a great coating in my experience.
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Here is Adams. They are calling thereís Graphene ceramic coating.

    They have a spray coating as well. Both using their UV technology for application.



    Coating claims



    Graphene is coming out of the woodwork fellas. We shall see if it lasts or if itís the next flavor of the month.
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    ^^Exciting. I’ve been waiting for the boom, but you are probably accurate that it’s not ready to dethrone ceramic yet and maybe that’s why only a few have stuck their hand in it so far.

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    I just order Adams. It was around 75 with discounts and shipping for 60 mls. I almost ordered ethos or GlassParency graphene coatings glad I waited. I def have more faith in Adams then the others

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by acuRAS82 View Post
    ^^Exciting. Iíve been waiting for the boom, but you are probably accurate that itís not ready to dethrone ceramic yet and maybe thatís why only a few have stuck their hand in it so far.
    After my run with SPS Iím going to take a backseat to graphene and see what happens. At this moment Iím not entirely sold.

    The best thing is the slickness.

    Quote Originally Posted by William_Wallace View Post
    I just order Adams. It was around 75 with discounts and shipping for 60 mls. I almost ordered ethos or GlassParency graphene coatings glad I waited. I def have more faith in Adams then the others
    Let us know how it is. It would not surprise me if all three brands are using the same blender.
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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    It just dawned on me that Adam’s is claiming 7+ years of protection. I know claims can be a stretch but my lord, that’s a long duration to boast about.

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    Re: Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

    Quote Originally Posted by acuRAS82 View Post
    It just dawned on me that Adam’s is claiming 7+ years of protection. I know claims can be a stretch but my lord, that’s a long duration to boast about.

    Yea I did a double take on that one maybe on a garaged car that drives 5000 miles a year. I have the Adams spray coating I put it on all cars I detail. The product worked great in direct sunlight. I offer it as a 6 month coating after a one step. Cquartz lite is better but Adams is so easy to apply 10 minutes I’m around the vehicle.

    The new version spray coating has graphene oxide too. I will probably be ordering that soon I have a few bottles of the spray coating left that I need to use up first.

    I was never a Adams fan but recently I appreciate there ceramic line.

    I’m a Cquartz UK on vehicles so that will be the bench mark

 

 
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