Is Graphene the next big thing for coatings?

[Desertnate]

Over/under we see a graphene rinseless by spring?

And a graphene infused traditional car wash shampoo too.

The original 303 is a nice product to have around the house I spray my serpentine belts a few times a year. It had saved a faucet for me when I soaked a beat up I-ring over night in it. And it really works on real rubber to condition. I have had issues when I used in my cars though in the summer the car interior would get to hot and it fogged all my glass with a film.

On exterior trim I found it would run all over the paint. It would either sweat out of the rubber in the hot sun or dissolve in the rain. Big mess. Never again for me.

[The Guz]

that video just killed everyone`s dream of graphene coatings. i myself was skeptical but since the adams price is basically just about the same as the ceramic, i figure i give it a try thinking maybe it will waterspot just a tad bit less. but if the guy claimed his product is graphene infused in it then technically it should work how you think it should.

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Over/under we see a graphene rinseless by spring?


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Adams is going to be infusing their ceramic products with graphene to have their own maintenance line. Wouldn`t surprise me if they are one of the first to do so.

[The Guz]

Oh boy here we go again. He wasn`t happy with the chicago auto pros video so in response he releases this video to prove how great the coating is.

He is something else saying he tends to stay out of comparison videos yet he posts in the chicago auto pros video and now this one lol.

[atbalfour]

Oh boy here we go again. He wasn`t happy with the chicago auto pros video so in response he releases this video to prove how great the coating is.

He is something else saying he tends to stay out of comparison videos yet he posts in the chicago auto pros video and now this one lol.

Painful watching. Is this guy really in sales?

You`re wrong we`re right never looks good.

[The Guz]

Painful watching. Is this guy really in sales?

You`re wrong we`re right never looks good.

Unfortunately he is the face of their brand.

I see this as damage control to the Chicago auto pros video to not hurt their sales to cash in on the graphene buzzword.

[acuRAS82]

The Guz was pretty spot on about Ethos guy.

[BudgetPlan1]

Painful watching. Is this guy really in sales?

You`re wrong we`re right never looks good.

Unfortunately he is the face of their brand.

It`s just just not a good look...let the product speak for itself. At some point (and maybe we`re there) ya just get tired of hearing from the the same mfg every time there is a mention of graphene.

[The Guz]

It`s just just not a good look...let the product speak for itself. At some point (and maybe we`re there) ya just get tired of hearing from the the same mfg every time there is a mention of graphene.

I agree. Here is something interesting that was pointed out to me which I did verify. So car supplies warehouse which is run by chicago auto pros has dropped the ethos graphene coating from the store. Ethos has also removed every single one of their posts from that video just like they did with my video. Again that does not look good.

[William_Wallace]

The guy can not help him self from firing comments back. It’s not like he is the chemist that formulated he should have taken the high road or at least realize that he really need to think about his comments and pick and choose his content he wants to respond to. If he was the chemist that worked on this for years I could understand his reaction.

[acuRAS82]

The guy can not help him self from firing comments back. It’s not like he is the chemist that formulated he should have taken the high road or at least realize that he really need to think about his comments and pick and choose his content he wants to respond to. If he was the chemist that worked on this for years I could understand his reaction.

Yes, he’s not the chemist and he is literally failing at his real job.

[William_Wallace]

I would love to see @loach or even try my self to buy a small supply of good RGO and mix into some spray sealants like BSD, mothers CMX and reload because it has silicone in it.

[FunctionalDoc]

Unfortunately he is the face of their brand.

I see this as damage control to the Chicago auto pros video to not hurt their sales to cash in on the graphene buzzword.

I watched the video from Chicago Auto Pros and Tim`s body language was bad with his arms crossed. I beleive that Tim is a good guy at heart but the wrong person to respond to criticism of their products.
He is so defensive and he is waffling and weaving more then politicians.

I learned a long time ago to watch and break myself from saying they are being honest with you are the really lying the rest of the time?

Overreacting is doing more damage to the brand.

[William_Wallace]

Good point @ functionaldoc the guy should stick to its strengths the water beading I have seen some videos where the beading was exceptional I was impressed by the product. I Think if he played to those strengths and the ease of use compared to some ceramics he would some good talking points about the product. The points he trying to make where his company figured out graphene and ceramics are tier below are not chiving well.

@budget letting the product do the talking is another great point the Art de shine/SPS way.

[BudgetPlan1]

Good point @ functionaldoc the guy should stick to its strengths the water beading I have seen some videos where the beading was exceptional I was impressed by the product. I Think if he played to those strengths and the ease of use compared to some ceramics he would some good talking points about the product. The points he trying to make where his company figured out graphene and ceramics are tier below are not chiving well.

@budget letting the product do the talking is another great point the Art de shine/SPS way.

SPS/Art d` Shine have been noticeably absent in the recent `graphene hoopla` aside from a non-confrontational post or 2 from Albert Yow.

Coincidentally, one of those posts explained that the water behavior in their graphene offering had *nothing* to do with graphene. There are also some non-coating related articles around that contend that graphene in `thin layer` applications is hydrophillic, not hydrophobic.

Methinks SPS/Art d Shine took the correct approach in all of this...in stark contrast to Ethos. Wonder if Ethos will take a lower profile at some point or will continue to bloviate themselves into the same marketing pit as TopCoat F11?

Some albeit early reviews from some folks I trust say that so far, the Ethos is actually a nicely performing coating; not the promise of lesser water spotting but overall does very well in the `normal` self cleaning, hydrophobic, application and aesthetic areas.

:shrug:

[William_Wallace]

@budget that info about SPS and the graphene not being the main reason it had great beading is very interesting. I would have never guessed that.

on the Ethos coating if the price is right I will be grabbing it. For me I’m almost afraid to pull the trigger on another graphene product because I feel like the following day a different company will release a new product and I’ll be more wishing I had waited. For me graphene doesn’t have to be better than ceramics I just want it to decent product if I am spending money on it.