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    Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    It is with a heavy heart that I post this, but it has to be shared.

    Holy Sheet part I is officially done

    Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    Essence does not play well with gtech csl, exo, or both

    It has failed, I`m calling this one

    It`s flat, I decontaminationed it for the fourth time in 13 months just this weekend and it was not a pretty site afterwards.



    It was getting pretty sketchy at the 8 month mark to be honest.


    this is after the decon wash


    after about 1 minute


    ~2 minutes



    an angel came to help






    I`ve made an executive decision and decided to recall the last two remaining owned client Vehicles as the other two have already been sold. It`s up to the owners if they want to accept a gratis 1step+ (new) coating. I just can`t live with it on my detailing conscience.

    I`m going to do a one step to remove whatever is leff and coat it with something else that I know will not fail very prematurely.

    I shouldn`t have used essence and do not recommend anyone else to. There is no way my clients could maintain a coating better than I could for a year, and I put this on my hood before I ever sold it.

    I will post some videos once I get more time.

    I will also be re-introducing up to two Hellcats in the near future, so at least thats a plus.


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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Thanks for doing these tests. I like so see real world results and choose products that have been tested and proven, that way I can put my faith in the products I use.
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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    How long did you think/hope the products would last if Essence hadn`t misbehaved?

    It`s a combo I still want to try sometime.

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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
    How long did you think/hope the products would last if Essence hadn`t misbehaved?

    It`s a combo I still want to try sometime.
    exov2 should last up to 18 months
    csl says 3-5 years
    csl+exo should be 3-5
    if you go to gtechs site and buy through their accredited detailers I`m prety sure csl+exo is sold as 5 yr


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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    I`ve seen several people who have complained of pre-mature coating failure in the last several months across several different (non Carpro) brands. Essence seems to be the common link.
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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Stunned, thanks for sharing.
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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Thanks for the work, time, effort and info!
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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Good to know as I’m doing a coating this weekend and was gonna use essence


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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Well one csl client said he wont allow me to redo it for free, and if he didnt now live 300 miles away he`d pay me full price for what I`d recommend.

    That made me feel good.

    I`m still gonna send him, essence+, and reload or c2v3 (white cat)
    and probably some other stuff.

    I`m not happy to know I have two cars out there that are 1/3 or so of proper expectancy. Perils of getting started I guess.

    those were my first cars to csl on and they all came last summer when I had that ridiculous streak of 2+ month full of Mopars


    I asked the other client to call me and he said he would, but never did so hopefully I`ll get him squared away tomorrow. I still owe him a two year coating in my opinion since his 3 year one probably died already after one year.


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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Civicclutch View Post
    Good to know as I’m doing a coating this weekend and was gonna use essence


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    no dont do it unless the coating is carpro


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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by boomdone View Post
    I`ve seen several people who have complained of pre-mature coating failure in the last several months across several different (non Carpro) brands. Essence seems to be the common link.
    And imagine the non reporting bias swaying the sample size of all of the people who don`t have the guts to admit that their`s failed as well

    I posted this on a pretty large detailing group on fb and nobody wants to give real input, they just want to dance around their own speculation without any kind of data to prove anything

    I did this test on one principle alone and that was for data

    I`ll admit I made a bad business decision to put Essence on before these Coatings without any longitudinal data but I didn`t see any problem with it because I was told there would be no problem with it and apparently they are a separate silica strand that don`t react properly with each other or something... I don`t know I`m not a Real scientist I`m just a social scientist and occasionally a mad scientist.

    but i hold the proof now and if somebody wants to contest this they better start now and hit me up in december 2018


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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Thanks for the accurate representation of your results
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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by glfnaz View Post
    Stunned, thanks for sharing.
    To be honest, I am always a bit `stunned` by the 3-5 year claims, particularly when used on daily drivers, more notably in harsh winter areas. 22ple HPC also claims 3-5 years I believe.

    I just don`t think anything beyond even 3 years is realistic given actual vehicle usage. 3 years alone is quite a tall order...its a pretty harsh world out there.
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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Thanks for charing your experience with your testing and it can be very usefull for others. You have done a great work and follow up.
    I think many have to come and see essence as a finishing polish. But the intent was as a primer for carpros coatings. And now we see that their is different strings of the sio2. It`s a interesting thing that you found out.
    Do gtechnic have any primer for their coatings?
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    Re: Holy Sheet hood test is DONE- RIP

    Yeah I put Essence on the back burner when I could tell that when I went to install a coating it removed all of the fillers and hazed.
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