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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    Heading into week 8; it`s basically been 2 months since application. Lots of water spots on the hood now. Bird bomb (Panel C/Product C) was harder to clean with N914 and wet MF towel. Some very minor etching from the bird bomb present. Here are the shots and video.

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    I find the beading to be variable after rain and after spraying it with distilled water (on a cleaned hood). The sheeting with high volume water is miserable to watch. Low volume sheeting is easier to take, but it is obviously slower on all three panels. I`m still going to conclude that there is some protection still there given the nature of the beading. Neither the beading nor the low volume sheeting are terrible at this point, so these products just may make it to 3 months. I suspect, however, that the level of protection will be far less than what we would all consider acceptable at that point. I may be judging.

    I haven`t used any Gyeon spot remover or CarPro spotless for fear of degrading the coating somewhat. I`ll see how far it goes up to the three month mark.

    At three months I`ll do the reveal, polish and coat with Wolfgang Uber.

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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    The results are in!

    It`s been a little over two months since the application of my blinded silica sprays. Initially they exhibited some strong hydrophobic characteristics: tight beads and rapid sheeting. If you haven`t followed my thread, basically by 1 month, the coatings lost that super tight beading and rapid sheeting. Rapid sheeting precipitously worsened between months 1 and 2, and while beading took a hit, the fact that there were some tight beads here and there made me conclude there was still some protection.

    However, between months 1 and 2, I started noticing water spots. There were a lot of them this weekend when I washed my wife`s car.

    Water was just sitting on the hood. Here are the shots at 5 minutes. Not ideal.

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    Product B (look more in the center)



    Product C


    I decided that it was time to do something about it. Good thing I did. I used Gyeon spot remover and it got rid of some. I polished the car with HD Polish and it got rid of all of the spots except one, and that required some Menz FF3000. After prepping with Panel Wipe and then with Wofgang prep (uh, synergy maybe?), I applied Uber Ceramic to the hood.

    So, here`s the reveal.

    First, here`s how you voted:

    1. Which one looked the best: 14% Product A, 86% can`t tell.

    2. Which product beaded the best: 29% Product A, 71% can`t tell.

    3. Which product sheeted the best: 29% Product A, 14% Product C, 57% can`t tell.

    4. Which offered the best protection: 100% can`t tell.


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    Final thoughts:

    First, let me reiterate that I had no idea which product was which during the test. If my wife randomized them or even if she simply labeled them as I placed them, I had no idea and no biases throughout the test.

    I felt that Product A (Wet Coat) started strong, but I`m my opinion, it ended up like the other three. I think the sheeting universally fails around 6 weeks and that the beading around 2 months. The protection is pretty good for about 1 month, and then stasis causes water spotting to form. In terms of durability, I did not get 3 months of protection out of these products. I did get more than 2 months of "beading," but not ideal beading. Certainly not the "protection" that I wanted. Some will say that even a good coating can display water spotting, but I generally have not experienced this with any traditional coating so soon.

    I think these products do have a place - topping traditional coatings and using as a quick spray on wheels to help them maintain their shine and cleanliness.

    Nevertheless, I think that if you`re going to ask the question of which you should buy, I think any one of these three will suffice for your application. But, if you are hoping to get at least three months of durable protection, you may want to think about boosting the silica spray coating every month.

    Just my thoughts, as always...

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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    Thank you for all time and effort you put into this.

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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    I always thought all three had pretty much the same formula. I can now put these in the same category as iron removers, buy the cheapest available. Thanks for following through with the test!
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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    Sorry, I hit the wrong button and marked disliked. Great report.

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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    WOW! Quite the test. Thanks. Would gyeon cure be a good maintenance product for all these new spray coatings?

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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    What a great showdown test. Thanks Kevin!
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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    Thanks Kevin! I enjoyed every update
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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    I have no personal experience using Cure on top of the silica coatings. As you know, it is designed to extend the life of any coating, so in theory I see no reason why it can`t.

    But, given the expense of Cure, I would think that`d it`d be cheaper and easier to just apply more of the silica spray.

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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    Quote Originally Posted by kevincwelch View Post
    I have no personal experience using Cure on top of the silica coatings. As you know, it is designed to extend the life of any coating, so in theory I see no reason why it can`t.

    But, given the expense of Cure, I would think that`d it`d be cheaper and easier to just apply more of the silica spray.

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    Yes. My thoughts too. Cheap enough and easy to do when needed.
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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    Kevin

    profesional to the end, nicely done
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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

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    profesional to the end, nicely done
    Thank you.

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    Re: Silica spray showdown: McKee`s v. Gyeon v. CarPro

    Seems to me that, given the short time and easy effort to apply these, even a month of decent protection is not bad. I never believe the manufacturer marketing BS about "up to 3 months", etc.
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