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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    (from Wednesday)
    1 month and 2.5 weeks on hood
    washed with glissante, first 2bm wash
    hood rinsed clean with my garden hose , i just wanted to wash it i guess

    flood dried and wiped dry with a dmmt









    video- beading/sheeting hasnt changed one bit, not that i expected it to...just saying
    https://youtu.be/6sY8IE-It34

    observations: c2v3 only side ends up super spotted when i drive through weather. all the beads it makes are nice but they dry up and it looks much worse than the coating side.

    slickness is almost the same on the c2v3 only vs coating side, the coatings have more of the buttery feel

    c2v3 repels water quite well, but its no csl

    the hood-
    the main observation i see every single morning is with the dew on the hood.

    i drive through about 1/2 mile residential road at 30mph then hit the feeder to the interstate. once i get going about 25-30, depending on the amount of dew on the hood...the csl exo combo side has already started beading up and cleaning off the hood. csl comes right behind after a few more mph. exo takes up to 50mph and never really gets going like the others.

    it`s crazy to me, how putting the exo on top of the csl really changes how the exo behaves.

    for instance, it took me 6 layers of exo only on my passenger fender to get the similar crazy water behavior as just one csl + 2exo layers does. and even then most of the panel is vertical so its hard to really say its As good/impressive.

    i keep getting feedback from my friends with just csl on their cars about how easy they are to clean, and how impressed they are every time it rains on their car.

    i dont really like the exo only side. i wonder if I`d feel the same way had i not dont the side by side comparison.

    anyways, overall the csl only would impress probably every single client we have. but adding the exo on top is not exactly a must do.

    the combo side beads so intensely that when it rains just a little and spots your hood up, the csl only dries the best looking. (think car parked and not moving)

    the water behavior of the combo side is just very nice to watch.

    watching these two battle it out on my hood when driving and just in general has been a joy thus far.

    im alreadu considering adding c2v3 to the exo only side but not sure if I`ll do it yet

    thanks for viewing







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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    I`m going to read through this whole thread again. Your posts have me seriously considering a coating (CSL).
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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    hood originally coated 8/17/2016

    last wash was 10.7.16
    has not even been touched since then. (24 days)

    rained a little this am

    dirty beeds but finally something changed...


    csl w exo


    csl

    exov2



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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    Edit-post deleted, new phone issues


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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    Been a while and it was bugging me and with rain coming I didn`t want to drive a spotted vehicle to work the rest of the week....

    last wash was oct 7th

    High pressure soap and rinse (no mitts) at coin op- 7quarters- felt like it was a worthy donation for the merlins.

    Wiped down with spray and gloss and pfm towels large/small

    I tried to get as much water on hood as I could for the pics


    Exo which was actually topped with high gloss several weeks ago, i couldnt resist and the exo was not beading as well as it used to



    csl

    csl + exo

    And a few more of csl + exo





























    observations: essence + c2v3 side still doing well, but nothing like the other side with csl or the hood with csl/csl+exo

    my pbl v2 vs csl 50/50 is fun to watch,,makes pblv2 look like its an OTC wax, beading and sheeting wise its not even close and the csl half gets much less dirtier than the pblv2 half



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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    Looks good buddy nice endorsement for CSL. I think I might do it to our odyssey soon.

    Besides the CSL what do you recommend for the prep steps. Thanks


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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    Quote Originally Posted by MattPersman View Post
    Looks good buddy nice endorsement for CSL. I think I might do it to our odyssey soon.

    Besides the CSL what do you recommend for the prep steps. Thanks


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    a proper polishing to autopia standards
    (optional essence step)
    and a panel wipe

    all my CSL vehicles have essence under them so time will tell if that was a good move or not

    so far all I hear are extremely satisfied Hellcat and Scat Pack owners


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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    Quote Originally Posted by Vega@Autopia View Post
    Thread has been stickied
    cool

    sadly I may be trading in the truck soon so I may not be able to provide any further updates after tomorrow


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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    new update!

    just a quick recap and clarifications after rereading this thread from post 1

    hood coated 8.17.16

    -1st wash: 9.1.16
    2bm rupes 101
    started passenger side testing on same date

    •post 47 should read.. washed Once not twice

    -hood 2nd wash: 9.14.16 @ day 27
    hose down and pinnacle rinseless wash

    -hood 3rd wash: 10.5.16 (although i put 10.7 in post 63 which wasnt a wednesday)
    2bm pa glissante

    on 11.30.16 i did a high pressure rinse with soap/water at coin op and wipedown with spray and gloss as drying aid but the drying towel didn`t get dirty, the paint was clean

    now...

    -hood 4th real wash on 1.3.17
    2bm Poorboy`s super slick n suds

    total hood duration 4.5 months give or take a few days

    this is after at least a month of not washing the truck ans multiple rainy days just sitting in my driveway spotting up

    kind of shaded but you can see the dirty water spots



    rest of truck was pretty dirty too
    c2v3 only side

    csl w exov2 on that door, only exov2 (6 or 7 layers) on that fender
    look how much less buildup this side has


    sprayed dirty hood with hose





    washed




    your left- exov2 which was topped with pa high gloss, (which apparently didn`t stick) about a month ago when it started to grow a flat spot
    middle of hood is CSL unaltered


    csl on your left, unaltered
    csl w exov2 on right, unaltered




    exov2 side




    csl side




    csl w exov2 side


    rapidwaxx on roof which has no coating




    i topped the entire vehicle except for the csl w exo part of the hood with pa rapidwaxx

    and some photos

















    thats about all i feel like updating right now

    stay tuned for an upcoming battle of exov2 vs exov3 and csl topped with the same two vs each other

    thanks for viewing


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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    So if I`m seeing that right the side with just EXO that was topped with PA high gloss is not beading good and lost some of it`s ability to sheet, is that right??

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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    I figured that PA High Gloss would hold up better than that. But I guess it is designed as a gloss enhancer, not a coating product. I`ve been testing out so many products lately I haven`t got around to using my High Gloss. First World problems. Lol
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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveT435 View Post
    So if I`m seeing that right the side with just EXO that was topped with PA high gloss is not beading good and lost some of it`s ability to sheet, is that right??
    appears so, even the csl only on hood seems to be waning

    Quote Originally Posted by rlmccarty2000 View Post
    I figured that PA High Gloss would hold up better than that. But I guess it is designed as a gloss enhancer, not a coating product. I`ve been testing out so many products lately I haven`t got around to using my High Gloss. First World problems. Lol
    keep in mind the vid is of the hood before wash, but one section is a clear standout

    also keep in mind essence is the base of all of these on the hood. perhaps essence does not like exov2 on top, it started to grow a flat spot 11.1.16

    iirc gtech says not to even top exov2 with c2v3
    based on my experience id say it simply didnt stick, so i topped it with rapidwaxx as well as the rest of the truck except for the csl w exov2 section on hood

    i plan to check water behavior today and will report back

    all i know for sure is csl w exov2 side is essentially bulletproof to this point, but the test is very early at only 4.5 months on the hood


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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    this is (left) pblv2 and (right) csl
    this is at 4months

    pretty clear difference





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    Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test

    The distinct line is crazy. I`m doing CSL or gloss coat come spring too cold to buy and ship right now since it takes like 6 days or more to get here from Florida lol


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