Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
(from Wednesday)
1 month and 2.5 weeks on hood
washed with glissante, first 2bm wash
hood rinsed clean with my garden hose , i just wanted to wash it i guess
flood dried and wiped dry with a dmmt
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...59cde926b8.jpg
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video- beading/sheeting hasnt changed one bit, not that i expected it to...just saying
https://youtu.be/6sY8IE-It34
observations: c2v3 only side ends up super spotted when i drive through weather. all the beads it makes are nice but they dry up and it looks much worse than the coating side.
slickness is almost the same on the c2v3 only vs coating side, the coatings have more of the buttery feel
c2v3 repels water quite well, but its no csl
the hood-
the main observation i see every single morning is with the dew on the hood.
i drive through about 1/2 mile residential road at 30mph then hit the feeder to the interstate. once i get going about 25-30, depending on the amount of dew on the hood...the csl exo combo side has already started beading up and cleaning off the hood. csl comes right behind after a few more mph. exo takes up to 50mph and never really gets going like the others.
it`s crazy to me, how putting the exo on top of the csl really changes how the exo behaves.
for instance, it took me 6 layers of exo only on my passenger fender to get the similar crazy water behavior as just one csl + 2exo layers does. and even then most of the panel is vertical so its hard to really say its As good/impressive.
i keep getting feedback from my friends with just csl on their cars about how easy they are to clean, and how impressed they are every time it rains on their car.
i dont really like the exo only side. i wonder if I`d feel the same way had i not dont the side by side comparison.
anyways, overall the csl only would impress probably every single client we have. but adding the exo on top is not exactly a must do.
the combo side beads so intensely that when it rains just a little and spots your hood up, the csl only dries the best looking. (think car parked and not moving)
the water behavior of the combo side is just very nice to watch.
watching these two battle it out on my hood when driving and just in general has been a joy thus far.
im alreadu considering adding c2v3 to the exo only side but not sure if I`ll do it yet
thanks for viewing
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Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
I`m going to read through this whole thread again. Your posts have me seriously considering a coating (CSL).
Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
hood originally coated 8/17/2016
last wash was 10.7.16
has not even been touched since then. (24 days)
rained a little this am
dirty beeds but finally something changed...
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...148cfd467a.jpg
csl w exo
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d9ec00c478.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...83a0b7b3fc.jpgcsl
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...df5f2c89f9.jpg exov2
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Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
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Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
Looks good buddy nice endorsement for CSL. I think I might do it to our odyssey soon.
Besides the CSL what do you recommend for the prep steps. Thanks
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Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
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MattPersman
Looks good buddy nice endorsement for CSL. I think I might do it to our odyssey soon.
Besides the CSL what do you recommend for the prep steps. Thanks
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a proper polishing to autopia standards
(optional essence step)
and a panel wipe
all my CSL vehicles have essence under them so time will tell if that was a good move or not
so far all I hear are extremely satisfied Hellcat and Scat Pack owners
Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
Thread has been stickied :)
Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
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Vega@Autopia
Thread has been stickied :)
cool
sadly I may be trading in the truck soon so I may not be able to provide any further updates after tomorrow
Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
new update!
just a quick recap and clarifications after rereading this thread from post 1
hood coated 8.17.16
-1st wash: 9.1.16
2bm rupes 101
started passenger side testing on same date
•post 47 should read.. washed Once not twice
-hood 2nd wash: 9.14.16 @ day 27
hose down and pinnacle rinseless wash
-hood 3rd wash: 10.5.16 (although i put 10.7 in post 63 which wasnt a wednesday)
2bm pa glissante
on 11.30.16 i did a high pressure rinse with soap/water at coin op and wipedown with spray and gloss as drying aid but the drying towel didn`t get dirty, the paint was clean
now...
-hood 4th real wash on 1.3.17
2bm Poorboy`s super slick n suds
total hood duration 4.5 months give or take a few days
this is after at least a month of not washing the truck ans multiple rainy days just sitting in my driveway spotting up
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...e184f820e1.jpg kind of shaded but you can see the dirty water spots
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...7bfdb82624.jpg
rest of truck was pretty dirty too
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...c651e6ab29.jpgc2v3 only side
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...a4c8313e26.jpgcsl w exov2 on that door, only exov2 (6 or 7 layers) on that fender
look how much less buildup this side has
sprayed dirty hood with hose
https://vimeo.com/198512339
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washed
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...28d3ea04f5.jpg
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your left- exov2 which was topped with pa high gloss, (which apparently didn`t stick) about a month ago when it started to grow a flat spot
middle of hood is CSL unaltered
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...85dc998d54.jpg
csl on your left, unaltered
csl w exov2 on right, unaltered
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...88f10b3aa9.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...eefdf42e8b.jpg
exov2 side
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...00e097f694.jpg
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csl side
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...a87981a421.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...673755d9ff.jpg
csl w exov2 side
rapidwaxx on roof which has no coating
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...0099170aca.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...e4b9c7b486.jpg
i topped the entire vehicle except for the csl w exo part of the hood with pa rapidwaxx
and some photos
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...c3b2e2652f.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...f9a0448a68.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...6dc8ef74e9.jpg
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thats about all i feel like updating right now
stay tuned for an upcoming battle of exov2 vs exov3 and csl topped with the same two vs each other ;)
thanks for viewing
Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
So if I`m seeing that right the side with just EXO that was topped with PA high gloss is not beading good and lost some of it`s ability to sheet, is that right??
Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
I figured that PA High Gloss would hold up better than that. But I guess it is designed as a gloss enhancer, not a coating product. I`ve been testing out so many products lately I haven`t got around to using my High Gloss. First World problems. Lol
Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
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DaveT435
So if I`m seeing that right the side with just EXO that was topped with PA high gloss is not beading good and lost some of it`s ability to sheet, is that right??
appears so, even the csl only on hood seems to be waning
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rlmccarty2000
I figured that PA High Gloss would hold up better than that. But I guess it is designed as a gloss enhancer, not a coating product. I`ve been testing out so many products lately I haven`t got around to using my High Gloss. First World problems. Lol
keep in mind the vid is of the hood before wash, but one section is a clear standout
also keep in mind essence is the base of all of these on the hood. perhaps essence does not like exov2 on top, it started to grow a flat spot 11.1.16
iirc gtech says not to even top exov2 with c2v3
based on my experience id say it simply didnt stick, so i topped it with rapidwaxx as well as the rest of the truck except for the csl w exov2 section on hood
i plan to check water behavior today and will report back
all i know for sure is csl w exov2 side is essentially bulletproof to this point, but the test is very early at only 4.5 months on the hood
Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
this is (left) pblv2 and (right) csl
this is at 4months
pretty clear difference
https://vimeo.com/198553904
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Re: Holy sheet: EXO v CSL v CSL w/EXO - A longevity test
The distinct line is crazy. I`m doing CSL or gloss coat come spring too cold to buy and ship right now since it takes like 6 days or more to get here from Florida lol
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