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    As many of you may know, I`m a huge fan of ZAIO. In fact, you could probably take away all my products and leave me with ONR and ZAIO, and I`d be happy enough. The reason I love ZAIO is its a best in class product, there are only 2-3 real AIOs in my book. My definition of AIO is clean, polish and protect. Many clean and polish, but have very short durability. Others are fairly durable, but don`t do much cleaning or polishing.



    When 3D/HD announced Speed, I was very excited, I`m always up for trying a new product, especially in the AIO class. I`ve always loved the looks of HD Poxy, its such a good looking sealant. The thought of being able to clean, polish and protect, while getting the great Poxy shine was very appealing.



    My plan of action is to wash, clay and then apply HD Speed to one side of the car and ZAIO on the other. I will be applying with a GG6 and a white polishing pad. I will then select a couple of areas to top with Poxy. I`m thinking of doing 1/4 of the hood with the Speed+Poxy combo and same with the roof, and the other 1/4 just Speed. Thoughts?

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    Found a few hours this weekend to get this knocked out. ONR and clay in one step (Scottwax method). Applied both AIOs with a GG6, white pads, using 4 passes. Approx time for each side was 40 minutes. This is why I love AIOs, great results with so little time. Then i went nuts applying all sorts of other stuff to check out durability.



    Observations:

    * Speed was a pleasure to apply, very easy to work with, seemed to have more cut, but stained pad, I like that its thick and doesn`t get sucked into the pad

    * DG111 cloudied the finish a bit

    * Speed/Poxy have a very wax like look

    * ZAIO very clear, glass like shine

    * ZAIO feels very dry but still slick. Speed is slicker but a bit oily feeling.





    The contenders... Speed VS ZAIO



    Split the car in two, passenger side is Speed, Drivers is poxy



    Using four largish drops, probably a bit too much, but its hard to regulate the amount out of the bottle.



    ZAIO is much thinner, it sinks deep into the pad.



    Splitting a small area for DG501 vs ZAIO, the small triangle is DG501



    Speed vs ZAIO, both pads seem equally dirty, Speed might be slightly ahead



    Ok, I couldn`t leave well enough alone. Hatch spoiler split with KAIO, Mother`s Cleaner, Megs Maroon, Zyrtle Wax. (all applied after using ZAIO and Speed, but each have cleaners so hopefully durability isn`t affected).



    The batteries in my brinkman were dead, best I could scrounge up was an LED maglight, which doesn`t work nearly as well.



    Splitting the areas for topping with Poxy and DG111. Pass upper hood and front of roof is Poxy. Drivers upper hood is DG111.



    The results:











    Anyway, I`ll keep the thread updated. I`m hoping to prove all you guys wrong that think topping an AIO makes sense. Thanks for looking.

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    Sounds good to me! Subscribed!

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    Eagerly awaiting your thoughts....

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    Interesting test, I thought of doing something similar, lets have the feedback!

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    DAn- Given your enthusiasm for ZAIO, that`d be an interesting comparison! But IMO adding the Poxy topper would make that part apples/oranges.



    Wonder what`d happen if you mixed a bit of Poxy in with the Speed :think: Yeah, I know...but I`m thinking about how people used to mix SRP with Autoglym`s EGP back in the day.

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    SPEED already has POXY in it



    That would be like what Dan is doing, SPEED topped with POXY



    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator
    DAn- Given your enthusiasm for ZAIO, that`d be an interesting comparison! But IMO adding the Poxy topper would make that part apples/oranges.



    Wonder what`d happen if you mixed a bit of Poxy in with the Speed :think: Yeah, I know...but I`m thinking about how people used to mix SRP with Autoglym`s EGP back in the day.

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    Since Speed is Poxy based, I want to see if topping it adds any durability. I`m doing the car 1/2 and 1/2, and then splitting the HD side yet again to test the Poxy.

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    I know what you are going! How long will the test last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Dekany
    I know what you are going! How long will the test last?


    Lol. I`m going to let it go at least 6 months or when the ZAIO dies, whichever is first. Car will be parked outdoors mainly, its a DD and only parked in the garage when I`m driving something else.

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    updated post #2

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    Looking good Dan!

    Holy lots of tests.

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    I am a big ZAIO user as well but also have Speed and Poxy but haven`t had time for a comparison. I really look forward to your findings especially for a DD car. I would be especially interested in:

    -Frequency of washing and with what products.

    -Use of quick detailers for touch up?



    Good work!
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    I wish you would have used Duragloss 101 instead of 501 in the triangled area of the ZAIO side. I have yet to see an actual side by side comparison of those two since they are the most similar if not identical formulations. Durability outcome between those two would be very interesting.

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    Thanks for taking the time to do this test and for keeping us updated...
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