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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miami_Sunset
    yup



    I did i actually rinsed my hands 10 secs latter. it even makes my rims smoke out

    Maybe becaue they are UNCOATED..

    Which you are not to use this product on.

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    This is horse But i agree FUZZ that sometimes people need to state their evidence. :detective.

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Quote Originally Posted by holland_patrick
    Maybe becaue they are UNCOATED..

    Which you not to use this product on.

    coated they are. it was on a 2001 Montero Sport

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    This is an asked and answered thread. Question answered, everything else is tangential. Close it, and contribute to a wheel cleaner or HF thread.
    Brenton Dickieson

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miami_Sunset


    I did i actually rinsed my hands 10 secs latter.
    The instructions don`t say to rinse your hands. They say to wash your hands. According to the CDC`s instructions on how to wash your hands, it appears that rinsing is the final step.

    Quote Originally Posted by The CDC website

    What is the correct way to wash your hands?
    • First wet your hands and apply liquid or clean bar soap. Place the bar soap on a rack and allow it to drain.
    • Next rub your hands vigorously together and scrub all surfaces.
    • Continue for 10 - 15 seconds or about the length of a little tune. It is the soap combined with the scrubbing action that helps dislodge and remove germs.
    • Rinse well and dry your hands.

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Quote Originally Posted by PEI Detail
    This is an asked and answered thread. Question answered, everything else is tangential. Close it, and contribute to a wheel cleaner or HF thread.

    i thought fuzz was in charge

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fuzz
    The instructions don`t say to rinse your hands. They say to wash your hands. According to the CDC`s instructions on how to wash your hands, it appears that rinsing is the final step.

    [/list]

    when i said rinse i did use the Dawn that was next to me. must i get into minute details ? :no:

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miami_Sunset
    when i said rinse i did use the Dawn that was next to me. must i get into minute details ? :no:
    Say what you mean!
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    ...need a wax?

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Perhaps you didn`t notice the name at the top of the page, but this is DETAIL City.

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miami_Sunset
    i thought fuzz was in charge

    I am in charge. I feel it would be wrong to lock the thread without giving GSR a chance to reveal his source and wipe the egg off his face.

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Like usual all Vs. One I love it

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Steve, Fuzz, and DC,


    I just wanted to apologize for this whole ball of mess I created. I really didn`t mean for it to get this blown out of proportion at all. I was just trying to get an answer.

    Sorry for any stress this morning. Enjoy the rest of the day...It`s gorgeous up here in the North East.


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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    In case of emergency or spill, contact CHEMTREC at 800-424-9300
    MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
    1. IDENTIFICATION OF THE SUBSTANCE/PREPARATION AND THE
    COMPANY/UNDERTAKING
    Product Name: D31 - Wheel Brightner
    Use of the Substance/Preparation
    Recommended use: Maintenance product.
    Company/Undertaking Identification
    2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
    Chemical nature of the preparation
    Components CAS # % Weight OSHA PEL
    TWA
    EINECS No. Classification
    Conditioners TS 1-5 None --- ---
    Ammonium Biflouride 1341-49-7 1-2 None 215-676-4 C;R34
    T;R25
    Proprietary Surfactant Blend TS 1-10 None --- ---
    Water 7732-18-5 75-95 None 231-791-2
    3. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION
    Most important hazards: This product is for use by professional car washes and detailers only and is NOT
    intended for home use. Harmful if swallowed. Harmful; may cause lung damage.
    Corrosive. This product contains chemicals listed on Canada WHMIS. See Section
    15.
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    Prepared Date: 05/17/2002
    Meguiar`s Holland
    Laan der Verenigde Naties 40
    33174 DA Dordrecht
    Holland
    Tel: 31-78-6210268
    Meguiar`s Hong Kong
    Suite 6-7, 20/F Marina House
    68 Hing Man Street
    Shaukeiwan
    Hong Kong
    Tel: 852-2967-0202
    Meguiar`s France
    79 avenue Edouard Vaillant
    92100 BOULOGNE
    France
    Tel: 33-1-46-10-47-81
    Meguiar`s USA
    17991 Mitchell South
    Irvine, CA 92614
    Tel: 949-752-8000
    Fax: 949-752-5784
    Print date: 10/01/2003 Reference Number: None
    4. FIRST AID MEASURES
    General Advice: Keep under medical supervision for at least 48 hours. Call a physician immediately.
    Inhalation: Move to fresh air in case of accidental inhalation of vapours. Consult a physician.
    Skin contact: Remove and wash contaminated clothing before re-use Wash off immediately with
    soap and plenty of water. If skin irritation persists, call a physician.
    Eye contact: In the case of contact with eyes, rinse immediately with plenty of water and seek
    medical advice.
    Ingestion: Drink plenty of water. Do not induce vomiting. Possible aspiration hazard Consult a
    physician.
    5. FIRE-FIGHTING MEASURES
    NFPA:
    Suitable extinguishing media:
    Use dry chemical, CO2, water spray or alcohol-resistant foam.
    Extinguishing media which must not be used for safety reasons:
    Not applicable
    Specific hazards:
    Heating can release hazardous gases.
    Special protective equipment for firefighters:
    Standard procedure for chemical fires. In the event of fire and/or explosion do not breathe fumes. As in any fire, wear selfcontained
    breathing apparatus pressure-demand, MSHA/NIOSH (approved or equivalent) and full protective gear
    Specific methods:
    Not applicable
    6. ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES
    Personal precautions: Ensure adequate ventilation. Keep people away from and upwind of spill/leak. Avoid
    contact with skin, eyes and clothing.
    Environmental precautions: Do not contaminate surface water. Prevent further leakage or spillage. Local
    authorities should be advised if significant spillages cannot be contained.
    Methods for cleaning up: Wear personal protective equipment. Clean-up methods - small spillage: Absorb spill
    with inert material (e.g. dry sand or earth), then place in a chemical waste container. If
    liquid has been spilt in large quantities clean up promptly by scoop or vacuum.
    7. HANDLING AND STORAGE
    Handling:
    Technical measures/precautions:
    No special technical protective measures required..
    Safe handling advice:
    None under normal processing.
    Storage:
    Keep containers tightly closed in a dry, cool and well-ventilated place. Keep away from direct sunlight. Do not freeze.
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    Health: 3 Flammability: 0 Reactivity: 1
    Incompatible products:
    Do not store together with acids or oxidizers.
    8. EXPOSURE CONTROLS / PERSONAL PROTECTION
    Engineering measures to reduce
    exposure:
    Ensure adequate ventilation.
    Respiratory protection: In case of insufficient ventilation wear suitable respiratory equipment.
    Skin and body protection: Immediately remove contaminated clothing.
    Eye protection: Avoid contact with eyes. If splashes are likely to occur, wear: Goggles
    Hand protection: Preventive skin protection: Neoprene Gloves.
    9. PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROPERTIES
    General Information
    Important Health Safety and Environmental Information
    pH @70° F: 5.5
    Flash point: 212 (°F), 100 (°C ) Method: PMCC-ASTM D93-90
    Boiling point/range: 210 (°F), 99 (°C)
    Water Solubility: Completely soluble
    Vapor density: N/A
    Density: 1.04
    Evaporation rate: Water
    VOC content: 6%
    Other information:
    Specific gravity: 1.04
    10. STABILITY AND REACTIVITY
    Stability: Stable under recommended storage conditions.
    Polymerization: None known
    Conditions to avoid: Extremes of temperature and direct sunlight. Reacts to
    metals/glass to form hydrofloric acid
    Materials to avoid: Strong acids,. Oxidizing agents. Strong alkalis.
    Hazardous decomposition products: Organic acids.
    11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
    Acute toxicity
    Component Information
    Additional Information: Corrosive. Swallowing will lead to strong caustic effect on mouth and throat and to the
    danger of peroration of esophagus and stomach.
    Page 3/5
    Odor: Mild
    Physical state: Liquid
    Color: Violet
    Appearance: Liquid
    12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION
    Ecotoxicity
    Product Information
    Aquatic toxicity: No information available
    Component Information
    Ecotoxicity effects: The aqueous medium should be given appropriate treatment as waste water in line
    with local regulations.
    13. DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS
    Waste from residues / unused products:
    Waste disposal must be in accordance with appropriate Federal, State, and local regulations. This product, if unaltered by
    use, may be disposed of by treatment at a permitted facility or as advised by your local hazardous waste regulatory
    authority. Residue from fires extinguished with this material may be hazardous.
    Contaminated packaging:
    Disposal must be made according to local and federal regulations.
    Ewc waste disposal no:
    Not applicable
    Further information
    According to the European Waste Catalogue, Waste Codes are not product specific, but application specific
    14. TRANSPORT INFORMATION
    General Transportation Statement Shipping requirements listed below:
    UN-No: 1760
    Labels:
    ADR/RID:
    Proper shipping name: Corrosive Liquid, n.o.s. (ammonium biflouride)
    Class: 8
    Packing group: III
    Maritime transport IMDG:
    Proper shipping name: INSERT INFORMATION
    Class: 8
    Packing group: III
    EMS: No data is available.
    Air transport ICAO-TI and IATA-DGR:
    Proper shipping name: INSERT INFORMATION
    Class: 8
    Packing group: III
    Other information:
    This product has been classified in accordance with the hazard criteria of the Controlled Products Regulations and the
    MSDS contains all the information required by the Controlled Products Regulations.
    Page 4/5
    15. REGULATORY INFORMATION
    Components TSCA DSL/NDSL Canada - WHMIS Classification
    Conditioners TS
    Ammonium Biflouride 1341-49-7 XU Present E; D2B
    Water 7732-18-5 XU Present
    16. OTHER INFORMATION
    Prepared by: Health & Safety
    Literary reference: None
    Disclaimer: To the best of our knowledge, the information contained herein is accurate. However,
    neither the above named supplier nor any of its subsidiaries assumes any liability
    whatsoever for the accuracy or completeness of the information contained herein.
    Final determination of suitability of any material is the sole responsibility of the user.
    All materials may present unknown hazards and should be used with caution.
    Although certain hazards are described herein, we cannot guarantee that these are
    the only hazards that exist
    End of Safety Data Sheet
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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Chemical Information
    Chemical Name: Ammonium hydrogen difluoride
    CAS Registry Number: 001341-49-7
    Synonyms: Ammonium bifluoride; Ammonium difluoride; Ammonium hydrogen difluoride; Ammonium hydrogen fluoride; Ammonium fluoride ((NH4)(HF2)); Ammonium hydrogendifluoride

    So ""ONE"" of the Chemicals that is in BOTH S&R and MEG Wheel Brighter is the same.

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    Re: Poorboy`s Spray + Rinse Wheel Cleaner containing HFl?

    Quote Originally Posted by joyriide1113
    gloves, mask, and body suit. lol

    this product is really for heavy duty use and should be dilluted quite a bit for regular wheel use. and must be followed with regular wash soap to neatralize acids.

    meguars wheel brightner contains NO HFI


    So this would mean the S&R has no HFI

 

 
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